n this episode of the podcast, we delve into the complex and intriguing topic of dissociation, inspired by Donald Kalsched’s book “Trauma and the Soul.” Hosts explore how extreme trauma can split the psyche, leading to dissociative states, and discuss how this defense mechanism operates in everyday life. They share personal experiences, insights on the interplay between dissociation and presence, and practical strategies for grounding and healing. Whether you’re interested in psychological theories, personal growth, or trauma recovery, this episode offers valuable perspectives and practical advice.
Timestamps:
00:00:00 - Intro
00:01:12 - Discussion on Donald Kalsched’s book “Trauma and the Soul”
00:02:30 - Mechanisms of personality split and extreme trauma
00:04:45 - Dissociation as a defense mechanism
00:06:20 - Dissociative Identity Disorder vs. everyday dissociation
00:08:15 - Personal experiences with dissociation
00:09:35 - Dissociation and its impact on daily functioning
00:11:50 - The usefulness and drawbacks of dissociation
00:13:15 - Antidotes to dissociation: Presence and meditation
00:15:00 - Public speaking and dissociation
00:17:25 - Expanding the comfort zone to reduce dissociation
00:19:40 - Grounding practices for nervous system regulation
00:21:30 - The connection between dissociation and the freeze response
00:24:00 - Polyvagal theory and dissociation
00:25:45 - Survival responses and dissociation in extreme situations
00:28:10 - The role of grounding in mitigating dissociation
00:30:25 - The importance of recognizing triggers
00:32:00 - Behavioral and exposure therapies
00:34:20 - Dissociation as a tool in high-pressure situations
00:36:45 - Revisiting stressful situations in safe environments
00:38:15 - Finding the edge of comfort and presence
00:40:50 - Analogy of cold showers and the point of surrender
00:43:30 - Depersonalization and its relation to dissociation
00:45:25 - Differentiating useful dissociation from harmful depersonalization
00:47:10 - The importance of consent and agency in depersonalization
00:49:00 - Meditative detachment vs. pathological dissociation
00:51:15 - Personal experiences of depersonalization
00:53:30 - Reality shifts post-psychedelic experiences
00:55:00 - Bridging altered states and everyday reality
00:57:15 - Maintaining a fluid perspective on reality
00:59:30 - The role of ego in dissociation and realization
01:01:45 - The impact of mindset on experiencing depersonalization
01:04:00 - Strategies for surrender and acceptance
01:06:00 - Addressing unprocessed triggers for better regulation
01:08:15 - Grounding and openness as preparation for challenging situations
01:10:25 - The paradox of control and surrender
01:12:50 - The power of acceptance in influencing experiences
01:14:30 - Sailing analogy: Working with the flow for better control
01:16:00 - Closing thoughts and reflections on dissociation and surrender