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It is a great pleasure today to welcome novelist Jane Campbell to Bedside Reading. Jane is here today to talk about her first novel: Interpretations of Love. Regular listeners may know that I've talked about one of Jane's books before, which is a short story collection called Cat Brushing, which I absolutely loved and it was a treat to be sent a copy of this new book by her publishers with an invitation to talk to Jane herself. Jane was a group analyst and then became a writer in her late 70s, publishing her first book in her 80s and I think she's a real inspiration that it's never too late to start writing but that also to remember that as we interact with people and as we work with them we will collect stories and we will get a better understanding of what a narrative is and different people's perspectives and that probably actually makes people better writers. It's been a real joy talking to Jane and I'm really hoping you're going to enjoy our conversation.

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A warm welcome back today to Bedside Reading to Catriona Davis. This is Catriona's fourth time on the podcast, and it's a real treat to have her back. We're talking about All My Wild Mothers by Victoria Bennett, which is an absolutely extraordinary memoir. It is a mixture of a book about plants, gardening, and apothecary garden. I hope I've said that right. It's a book about loss, about grief,
about social change, about expectations, rural poverty and having a child with a long-term condition. It's not an easy read and some of the themes that Catriona and I talk about today may be triggering for some listeners but I hope you'll enjoy our conversation. It's a book I would never in a million years have picked up had Catriona not suggested it to me but it's definitely one that's made me think and one I've really really enjoyed thinking about.

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If I'm a bit overexcitable and squealy today, it's because I'm having a proper fangirl moment talking to Dr Lucy Pollock about her second book, The Golden Rule, Listens in Living from a Doctor of Ageing. Ever since I started this podcast, Lucy has been one of my dream guests, so today really has been a dream come true in that she's very generously given up her time to talk about her wonderful book but also to talk about what it is that she does.

It was such a joy to talk about why it is so important to focus on doing less better. Why it is so important that we really think holistically about people. and why we really need to start having conversations which might seem quite difficult. we explore those conversations which are absolutely vital and which are so well received by patients, particularly those who are older and those so who know what they want and they don't want and are at risk of being in a system which does things to them for the sake of it rather than because it's the right thing to do.

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If you've not discovered Lucy's first book The Book About Getting Older it is absolutely wonderful too, you can listen to an episode of Bedside Reading from March 2024 when I discuss that book with GP Registrar Lauren Wallis here https://bedsidereading.buzzsprout.com/1880290/episodes/14670381-the-book-about-getting-older