• Episode 48: On Climate Anxiety | Mary Scruggs (guest therapist)
    Jan 28 2025

    In this episode of Therapists' Take, we explore the growing phenomenon of climate anxiety and how therapy can offer hope and healing in the face of environmental uncertainty.

    Mary Scruggs of Family Solutions Counseling joins us to discuss the emotional toll of climate change and share strategies for managing eco-anxiety.

    We’ll cover key aspects of this timely issue, including understanding climate anxiety, the impact of environmental stress on mental health, therapeutic tools to address eco-distress, and how to foster hope and resilience in uncertain times.

    Whether you’re personally feeling the weight of climate anxiety or working to support someone who is, this episode offers insights and practical guidance. ___________ Chapters:

    00:00 - Hi, Carrie! (intro)

    02:32 - Episode Breakdown

    03:25 - Guest Introduction

    04:14 - Mary's Personal Journey

    07:04 - Facing Uncertainty

    09:25 - Defining Climate Anxiety

    11:05 - Grief

    12:35 - Who It Impacts the Most

    15:21 - Alone and Helpless

    21:55 - Maneuvering Through the Pain

    26:35 - Deeper Issues?

    31:10 - LGTBQ+

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    About Our Guest: Mary Scruggs, LMFT, CPTT

    Mary Scruggs is a skilled therapist at Family Solutions Counseling in Oklahoma City, specializing in helping individuals and families navigate complex emotional challenges. With a passion for addressing the intersection of mental health and environmental issues, Mary brings valuable expertise to the growing field of climate anxiety. Her compassionate approach focuses on fostering resilience, managing eco-stress, and empowering clients to find hope and balance in uncertain times.

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    Mary’s Profile Page: https://www.familysolutionsok.com/mary-scruggs

    Mary’s LinkTree: https://www.linktr.ee/youranxioustherapist_okc

    Mary’s Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/youranxioustherapist_okc

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    Resources:

    Website: Https://climatepsychology.us

    Book: Generational Dread: Findng Purpose in an Age of Climate Anxiety by Britt Wray - https://amzn.to/3Wx2Lfm

    Book: Climate Change for Babies - https://amzn.to/4axH5Wd

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    36 mins
  • Episode 47: On How to Use a Polygraph Effectively in Recovery | David Otwell (Guest Polygraph Examiner)
    Jan 21 2025

    In this episode of Therapists' Take, we dive back into the polarizing topic of polygraph exams in betrayal trauma couple recovery. If you listened to Episode 44 (links are below), then you’re familiar with Carrie and Josh’s views on the subject—but could their perspectives shift after this conversation?

    Joining us is polygraph examiner David Otwell, who brings decades of expertise to the table. David dispels common myths, explains the science behind polygraph accuracy, shares insights from his work with couples navigating betrayal trauma, and explores the future of polygraph use in recovery. Whether you’re a skeptic or a supporter, this episode offers valuable information to help you form your own perspective on this complex tool in the healing process.

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    About Our Guest: David Otwell

    We are honored to welcome David Otwell to this episode of Therapists' Take. David is the owner and operator of Truth Verification Polygraph Services, based in Edmond, Oklahoma. With an impressive 34-year career in law enforcement, David has served in local, state, and federal positions, including as a task force officer with the FBI's Oklahoma City Division, where he investigated national security matters.

    After retiring from law enforcement in May 2023, David transitioned full-time into his well-established polygraph business. Trained by the legendary Cleve Backster of the Backster School of Lie Detection, David has conducted nearly 3,000 polygraph examinations, serving law enforcement agencies, fire departments, attorneys, district attorneys, counselors, and private citizens. He has also testified as an expert witness in court regarding polygraphs.

    David is deeply involved in the polygraph community, holding memberships in the Oklahoma Polygraph Association, the American Polygraph Association, and the Association of Police Polygraphists. His expertise and dedication have earned him two appointments to the Oklahoma Polygraph Examiners Board—first by Governor Mary Fallin in 2016 and again by Governor Kevin Stitt in 2023, where he currently serves as vice-chair.

    David’s unparalleled experience and passion for truth verification make him the perfect guest to discuss the myths, science, and future of polygraph exams, particularly in the realm of betrayal trauma recovery.

    You can read more about David and gather valuable information and resources from his website – https://www.truthpolygraph.com

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    Links & Resources

    Work with Carrie & Josh’s team at Family Solutions Counseling – https://www.familysolutionsok.com

    Find a Betrayal Trauma Therapist Near You - https://iitap.com/page/TherapistDirectory

    Episode 44: On Why We Stopped Using Polygraph - https://youtu.be/94Bzl2aEbc0?si=LDD4Ph_Q-Pa69bzo

    American Polygraph Association - https://www.polygraph.org/

    Stop Sex Addiction Book - https://amzn.to/3CqPGgD

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    For more great content, please visit our LinkTree – https://www.linktr.ee/familysolutionsok

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    46 mins
  • Episode 46: On Therapeutic Separations
    Jan 13 2025

    In this episode, we explore Therapeutic Separations—a carefully structured approach to relational healing, facilitated by a licensed therapist, often used when couples face significant challenges such as infidelity or betrayal trauma.

    We’ll unpack what therapeutic separations entail, who benefits most from them, how they’re designed, and tips to enhance their success.

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    Episode Breakdown:

    - What Is a Therapeutic Separation? A therapeutic separation is a guided relational pause aimed at reducing conflict and fostering both individual and relational growth.

    - Who Is It For? This approach is tailored for couples experiencing significant challenges like betrayal trauma, persistent conflict, or co-dependency.

    - How Is It Structured? Therapeutic separations include defined guidelines, therapist facilitation, and consistent check-ins to support accountability and healing.

    - Strategies for Success. Strong communication, accountability, and clear objectives are essential for a positive outcome.

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    Chapters:

    00:00 - Hi, Carrie!

    02:50 - Episode Breakdown

    03:45 - What Is a Therapeutic Separation?

    08:55 - Who Is It For?

    12:00 - How Does It Work?

    26:30 - Relational Success

    30:38 - Common Pitfalls

    35:53 - Book: Taking Space

    36:50 - Book: The Betrayal Bind

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    Resources:

    Family Solutions Counseling - https://www.familysolutionsok.com

    Couples Therapists Near You - https://www.psychologytoday.com

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    Books:

    Taking Space: How to Use Separation to Explore the Future of Your Relationship by Robert J. Buchicchio (https://amzn.to/4gNlrQa)

    The Betrayal Bind by Michelle Mays (https://amzn.to/3C4fOOe)

    The 5 Types of Couples by Gottman - The 5 Types of Couples

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    For more great content, please visit and follow our LinkTree - https://www.linktr.ee/familysolutionsok

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    38 mins
  • Episode 45: On Vulnerability - the Lifeblood of Healthy Relationships
    Dec 17 2024

    In this episode of Therapists’ Take, we explore the profound role vulnerability plays in building and sustaining healthy relationships. Vulnerability is often misunderstood as a sign of weakness, but in truth, it’s the cornerstone of trust, emotional intimacy, and genuine connection.

    Join us as we break down what vulnerability truly means and how embracing it can transform relationships for the better. We’ll tackle common fears surrounding vulnerability, the myth of risk-free intimacy, and how to balance openness with self-protection. You’ll also learn practical steps to approach vulnerability in ways that foster trust and connection, without oversharing or losing your sense of self.

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    Episode Breakdown (02:50)

    1. Defining Vulnerability (04:55) - What does it mean to be vulnerable in a relationship?

    2. No Risk-Free Intimacy (19:03) - That’s right! There is no such thing! Every meaningful relationship requires a level of emotional risk.

    3. How Much Is Too Much? (21:08) - While vulnerability is vital, oversharing or pushing too far too soon can harm relationships. But most relationships are referred to as “give and take relationships” in some circles.

    4. Steps Toward Healthy Vulnerability (30:34) - Learn actionable strategies to embrace vulnerability in a way that strengthens relationships without compromising your emotional safety.

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    Chapters:

    00:00 – Intro & Hi, Carrie!

    02:50 – Episode Breakdown

    03:35 – Squirrel Moment

    04:55 – 1. Defining Vulnerability

    10:20 – Intimacy Indicator

    11:05 – V. begets V.

    15:45 – Lifeblood?

    19:03 – 2. No Risk-Free Intimacy

    21:08 – 3. Can There Be Too Much?

    23:35 – It’s Tricky.

    25:00 – Parental Vulnerability

    29:00 – Domestic Violence Disclaimer

    30:34 – 4. Practical Steps

    31:57 – Josh’s Embarrassing Story

    34:05 – Self-Awareness

    36:50 – Runaway Bride Metaphor

    38:40 – My Best Friend’s Wedding Metaphor

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    Links & Resources:

    For more great content and services by Carrie & Josh, please check out their LinkTree – https://www.linktr.ee/familysolutionsok

    The 3 Channels of Self-Awareness - https://www.youtube.com/live/n_psQU9kcgg?si=dJZV6Kw50yxyvLdo

    Gratitude vs. Grief | Thanksgiving Episode 1 - https://youtu.be/fXJeoBS2lnU?si=glSNVRZXEXX7Ndon

    Finding Healing Through Connection | Thanksgiving Episode 2 - https://youtu.be/Sf-arzf8B0w?si=1pc0JzSTyn1LiJkv

    Episode on Authenticity - https://www.youtube.com/live/48vTHXudO-s?si=NK-7Aak2XhYNVcMI

    Love Addiction - https://youtu.be/aHKUEQRKrZM?si=YSLQFWc6xvsdDXX5

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    Domestic Violence Disclaimer:

    The content of this podcast may include discussions about domestic violence and related topics, which could be triggering for some listeners. If you or someone you know is experiencing domestic violence, you are not alone, and help is available.

    In the United States, you can contact the National Domestic Violence Hotline by calling 1-800-799-SAFE (7233) or by texting START to 88788. You can also visit their website at www.thehotline.org for confidential support, resources, and a live chat feature.

    If you are in immediate danger, please call 911 or your local emergency number.

    For listeners outside the United States, please reach out to your country’s local domestic violence resources or helplines for support.

    Remember, seeking help is a sign of strength, and there are people who care and want to support you.

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    43 mins
  • Episode 44: On Why We Stopped Using Polygraphs in Betrayal Trauma Couple Recovery
    Dec 9 2024

    In this episode of the Therapists' Take Podcast, Carrie and Josh dive into the controversial topic of polygraph exams in betrayal trauma recovery. For years, polygraphs have been used to aid couples navigating infidelity or sex addiction recovery, often as part of therapeutic disclosures. But are they truly effective? Do they truly serve the healing process?

    Join us as we:

    🧐 Unpack how polygraphs have been used in therapeutic disclosures.

    🧐 Examine the perceived benefits that make polygraphs appealing in couple recovery work.

    🧐 Reveal why we chose to phase out polygraphs in our recovery model.

    🧐 Discuss whether polygraphs still have a place in therapeutic practice.

    Whether you're a clinician or someone on a recovery journey, this episode sheds light on the evolving role of polygraphs in betrayal trauma recovery. Tune in to hear our insights and join the conversation!

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    Episode Breakdown (03:42)

    1. Polygraphs & Disclosures (05:48). Polygraphs have often been incorporated into therapeutic disclosures to verify information following infidelity or the discovery of sex addiction. We'll explain how they've historically been used and their role in aiding trust-building between partners.

    2. Perceived Benefits (14:53). Why have therapists, including us, seen polygraphs as helpful? We'll share anecdotal benefits from our experience, highlighting how they supported some couples in their recovery journey.

    3. Why We Stopped (23:15). While polygraphs seemed useful, the drawbacks outweighed the benefits for us. We'll delve into why we chose to stop using them and how this decision aligns with our couple recovery model.

    4. Is There a Place for Polygraphs in Betrayal Trauma Recovery (39:20) ? We'll discuss a scenario where we see how polygraphs could work their way back into our recovery model.

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    Books:

    Stop Sex Addiction by Milton Magness - https://amzn.to/49qYVts

    The Betrayal Bind by Michelle Mays - https://amzn.to/3OKAHRo

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    Articles:

    Therapeutic Disclosures by Josh & Carrie - https://tinyurl.com/286beza5

    Transitional Distrust by Josh & Carrie - https://tinyurl.com/2s3mspv4

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    For more great content or to check out our services, please visit our LinkTree - https://www.linktr.ee/FamilySolutionsOK

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    45 mins
  • Episode 43: On Healing Through Connection | Thanksgiving Special (Part 2)
    Nov 28 2024

    From Conflict to Connection: Healing Relationships Over the Holidays. In Part 2 of our Thanksgiving series, we’re joined by two incredible returning guests: Dr. Shannon Dial and Whitney Alexander, LMFT, who bring their expertise to the table to help us navigate the emotional complexities of the holiday season. Building on the insights from Part 1, this episode focuses on practical steps to bridge the gap between gratitude and grief while fostering healthier, more meaningful connections.

    Episode Breakdown:

    Emotional Regulation Techniques: Discover helpful ways you can help you navigate the swirl of holiday emotions without dismissing your grief.

    Setting Healthy Boundaries: Learn how to protect your emotional well-being by communicating needs effectively, maintaining balance, and avoiding unnecessary conflict.

    Building Connection Through Vulnerability: Explore ways to turn tough moments into opportunities for growth, repair, and deeper bonds with loved ones.

    Join us as Dr. Dial and Whitney Alexander share their wisdom on transforming holiday challenges into opportunities for connection, resilience, and healing. 🍁

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    Therapist Directories:

    General Directory: https://www.psychologytoday.com

    Betrayal Trauma: https://www.IITAP.com

    EMDR Therapist Directory - https://www.emdria.org/find-an-emdr-therapist/

    IFS Therapist Directory - https://ifs-institute.com/practitioners

    Somatic Experiencing - https://directory.traumahealing.org/

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    Books Inspired by the Episode:

    A Monster Calls by Patrick Ness - https://amzn.to/3Vgwpor

    Books by Brene Brown - https://amzn.to/49mxdy9

    No Bad Parts - https://amzn.to/4146cxi

    Boundaries - https://amzn.to/3B52fO0

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    47 mins
  • Episode 42: On Navigating Both Grief & Gratitude During the Holidays | Thanksgiving Special (Part 1)
    Nov 25 2024

    The holidays are a time of joy and togetherness, but they can also stir up unexpected feelings of grief, resentment, and emotional conflict. Why do gratitude and grief so often coexist during this season? In this powerful episode, we explore the emotional complexities of the holidays and offer insights to help you navigate them with self-awareness and compassion.

    We’re thrilled to be joined by Dr. Shannon Dial, LMFT, from Family Solutions Counseling in Oklahoma City, and Whitney Alexander, LMFT and EMDR Consultant (in training), and owner of the Warren-Alexander Group in Stillwater. Both are seasoned professionals in mental health and relationships, bringing valuable perspectives to this heartfelt discussion.

    Whitney's Profile - https://warrenalexandergroup.com/our-staff

    Shannon's Profile - https://familysolutionsok.com/shannon-dial

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    Whitney's Previous Episodes on YouTube:

    - Episode 10: On the 3 Channels of Self-Awareness - https://youtube.com/live/n_psQU9kcgg?feature=share

    - Episode 32: On Complex PTSD - https://youtube.com/live/LpDt5yhS1t4?feature=share -----------------

    EPISODE BREAKDOWN

    Understanding Emotional Coexistence: Discover why gratitude and grief often appear together, especially during the holidays.

    Cultural Pressures vs. Personal Reality: Examine the tension between societal expectations of joy and your personal emotional experience.

    Impact of Personal Experiences on Emotional State: Learn how strained relationships or past losses can amplify feelings of sadness or resentment during holiday gatherings.

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    The holidays can be challenging, but understanding the interplay between gratitude and grief is a good first step toward finding balance and peace. With expert insights from Dr. Dial and Ms. Alexander, we unpack the emotional triggers of the season and provide tools to help you navigate them more effectively.

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    Therapist Directories:

    General Directory: https://www.psychologytoday.com

    Betrayal Trauma: https://www.IITAP.com

    EMDR Therapist Directory - https://www.emdria.org/find-an-emdr-therapist/

    IFS Therapist Directory - https://ifs-institute.com/practitioners

    Somatic Experiencing - https://directory.traumahealing.org/

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    Books Mentioned in Episode:

    Books by Brene Brown - https://amzn.to/49mxdy9

    No Bad Parts - https://amzn.to/4146cxi

    Boundaries - https://amzn.to/3B52fO0

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    41 mins
  • Episode 41: On the Impact of Chronic Illness | Ceedee Gaddis (guest therapist)
    Nov 20 2024

    In this episode of Therapists' Take, we dive into the complex realities of coping with chronic illness as a family. Joined by guest Ceedee Gaddis, LMFT, we’ll explore how a long-term health condition can challenge family bonds, reshape communication, and create new expectations for support and care. Tune in for insights on building a resilient, unified family approach to chronic illness and finding pathways to hope, connection, and shared strength.

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    Discussion Topics:

    1. Impact of Chronic Illness on Family Dynamics

    Chronic illness often reshapes roles, routines, and responsibilities. We’ll discuss how families can acknowledge these changes and adapt in a way that reinforces unity rather than causing division.

    2. Effective Communication and Emotional Support

    Open and honest communication is crucial, but it can be difficult to sustain in the face of long-term illness. This segment will cover strategies for talking about illness-related stressors, setting boundaries, and expressing both empathy and personal needs.

    3. Coping Strategies for Family Members

    Coping isn’t just for the person with the illness; family members also need tools to manage stress and avoid burnout. We’ll talk about techniques and resources to help everyone in the family manage their mental and emotional health.

    4. Building a Resilient Support System

    Chronic illness requires a long-term approach, and families benefit from a resilient support system. We’ll look at ways to cultivate support within the family and how to connect with external resources for additional strength.

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    Guest Introduction:

    Ceedee Gaddis, LMFT, is a licensed marriage and family therapist at FSC Kids in Oklahoma City, specializing in family dynamics and mental health support. With a compassionate and insightful approach, Ceedee helps families navigate life’s toughest challenges, including the complexities surrounding chronic illness.

    Visit Ceedee on the web at https://familysolutionsok.com/ceedee-gaddis. Additionally, check out FSC Kids - https://www.FSC.kids

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    For more great content including but not limited to, blogs, book recommendations, mental health services, and more, check out all our website and social media platforms by visiting our LinkTree - https://www.linktr.ee/familysolutionsok

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    40 mins