This episode comes with a content warning - it is dark! Some of the darker places ended up on the cutting room floor, and it is still dark. Be safe when you listen to this.

An apology to Brianna Ghey and her family. Dr J managed to mispronounce their surname all the way through. We picked this up in the final edit.

In this episode we tackle the level of transphobia that is now so entrenched in our society that people with privilege can make a jibe about it within parliament.

We talk about the impact of this upon us personally, and as a group.

We do our best to bring our usual sense, humour and compassion to this conversation. We approach the impacts and arrive at a resolution.

It is by advocacy for ourselves and others like us, that we can get through this.

We also end up with an usual Breathtaking rant from Dr J - who has a Billy Joel obsession going on right now, as well the Muppets - Tenderly!

Muppets - Dr Teeth & the electric mayhem - Tenderly

We have a transcript for this episode - IIC Episode 60 Transcript

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