In this special episode of It Is Complicated, we remember Suzanne Osten, who died on the 24th October 2024

This interview was recorded a year ago, we are releasing it now as a tribute to her. We do have a backlog of episodes, this one felt important to put out first.

Josephine met Suzanne in 2005 after Suzanne saw one of her performances and invited her to be in an opera, even though neither of them had experience in being in, or directing an opera.

Suzanne’s adventurous spirit and willingness to try new things left a lasting impression on Josephine, and you can hear in the conversation how Suzanne was a force of nature—creative, chaotic, and always up for a challenge.

This episode celebrates Suzanne’s incredible impact on the art world and her lasting friendship with those who knew her.

Suzanne Osten’s IMDB page https://www.imdb.com/name/nm0652305/

Transcript (from zoom) for this episode IIC Episde 62

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Dr J, Josephine and CN Lester discuss their multi-hyphenate, portfolio working lives. Even for those with salaried jobs, there is always the side gig (or two or three) and projects.

Performers, academics, scientists, consultants, photographers, authors - there is not a single role that defines them.

This was recorded in March 2023 - since then - Josephine's book is available at Where it all started Novel , and CN Lester short story is out in the anthology Furies: Stories of the Wicked, Wild and Untamed - Dr J is still writing their first book proposal

https://whereitallstartednovel.com/

https://burleyfisherbooks.com/products/9780349017167

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This episode comes with a content warning - it is dark! Some of the darker places ended up on the cutting room floor, and it is still dark. Be safe when you listen to this.

An apology to Brianna Ghey and her family. Dr J managed to mispronounce their surname all the way through. We picked this up in the final edit.

In this episode we tackle the level of transphobia that is now so entrenched in our society that people with privilege can make a jibe about it within parliament.

We talk about the impact of this upon us personally, and as a group.

We do our best to bring our usual sense, humour and compassion to this conversation. We approach the impacts and arrive at a resolution.

It is by advocacy for ourselves and others like us, that we can get through this.

We also end up with an usual Breathtaking rant from Dr J - who has a Billy Joel obsession going on right now, as well the Muppets - Tenderly!

Muppets - Dr Teeth & the electric mayhem - Tenderly

We have a transcript for this episode - IIC Episode 60 Transcript

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