• Waterside Chat with Brian Bennett of the Wild Steelhead Coalition
    Jan 9 2025

    The Wild Steelhead Coalition’s Brian Bennett joined host Tom Sadler for an online Waterside Chat on November 14, 2024, making his second appearance on the program. Brian is the Wild Steelhead Coalition‘s communications and social media manager, produces the organization’s podcast, “The Adipose,” and assists with other communication and advocacy efforts.

    Among many great topics, Brian and Tom talked about:

    • Wild Steelhead as Pacific coast icon and watershed health indicator (the fish spawn in climate zones ranging from from high desert to temperate rainforest)
    • The work of the Wild Steelhead Coalition and the Now or Never Campaign
    • The need to build a robust army of wild steelhead supporters as devoted to preserving the fish as they are to catching them, particularly as the climate changes around us
    • How a wild steelhead is a rainbow trout that goes to sea to feed, and how the fish return not just to the same stream to spawn, but to the same spot in the stream
    • How wild steelhead populations are at 3% of historical levels in Washington state, due to warming waters, habitat loss, harvesting and more
    • Why a big pink salmon year in the Pacific means fewer wild steelhead in Idaho
    • How steelhead have been around for millennia and have been able to adapt to many environmental changes, but they have not been able to adapt to the genetic impacts of hatchery-raised fish
    • How rainbow trout start going out to sea as soon as we remove dams and other obstacles, making stream trout a genetic bank for the species
    • How the species and the industry need us to create a long-term plan for survival in the face of climate change
    • Why if you’re in the fishing space, whether as a consumer, fisherman or brand, you have a responsibility to conserve the species

    Also in this episode: The Adipose podcast, with the Linda Mapes interview mentioned in the Chat taking place on October 02, 2024.

    The Marine Fish Conservation Network's Waterside Chat series connects people who depend on healthy oceans and fisheries with the issues that directly affect them and their communities. Each episode the Network's Deputy Director Tom Sadler talks with different guests about ocean policy and fisheries management topics. He engages them in genuine and thoughtful conversations about what policy decisions mean for people’s livelihoods, communities, recreation, and coastal ways of life. Join the Network's email list to learn about future Chats. You can also watch past Chats and subscribe to the podcast on the Network's website.

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    56 mins
  • Waterside Chat with Kate Masury of Eating with the Ecosystem
    Jan 7 2025

    Kate Masury, executive director of Eating with the Ecosystem, joined the Marine Fish Conservation Network for a Waterside Chat on October 16, 2024. Among many topics, Kate and host Tom Sadler discussed:

    • Eating with the Ecosystem, the work they do, and how they are a nonprofit that started as a food gathering
    • Their place-based approach to sustaining wild seafood
    • How bribing people with delicious seafood is a good way to get them to the table
    • Working with members from all parts of the local seafood supply chain
    • Why one of the best things you can do for sustainability is to eat a variety of ocean species
    • Why you’re connecting directly with the oceans when you’re eating local seafood, and why it’s better for people to choose seafood from their local area
    • Creating a Roadmap for Climate-Resilient Seafood Supply Chains
    • And of course, much more

    The Marine Fish Conservation Network's Waterside Chat series connects people who depend on healthy oceans and fisheries with the issues that directly affect them and their communities. Each episode the Network's Deputy Director Tom Sadler talks with different guests about ocean policy and fisheries management topics. He engages them in genuine and thoughtful conversations about what policy decisions mean for people’s livelihoods, communities, recreation, and coastal ways of life. Join the Network's email list to learn about future Chats. You can also watch past Chats and subscribe to the podcast on the Network's website.

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    53 mins
  • Where Your Seafood Comes From: A Waterside Chat with Colles Stowell
    Jun 6 2024

    Colles Stowell, founder and president of the One Fish Foundation, joined the Marine Fish Conservation Network for an online Waterside Chat on May 30, 2024. Colles and host Tom Sadler discussed:

    • How our seafood system has changed from mostly local or domestic to mostly imported in a few short decades
    • How we've become so dependent on an industrialized food system that we don't know where our food is coming from
    • The power of One Fish Foundation's Know Your Fish dinners, which connect seafood consumers with the people who catch their food and start people on the path to owning their relationship with seafood
    • How One Fish Foundation goes to schools, including bringing a lobster trap to a kindergarten class
    • Why "good, clean and fair" should be a sustainable-seafood mantra
    • The important role of chefs in the seafood conversation
    • How consolidation in the seafood-distribution industry hurts local fishermen
    • And much, much more!

    IN THIS EPISODE:

    • One Fish Foundation

    MORE ABOUT COLLES:

    Colles Stowell's love of fish, fishing and food started early. From the Louisiana bayous of his youth, he moved on to New Hampshire's lakes and rivers and trout streams, world-class salmon rivers in Canada, and bonefish flats in the Bahamas. Along the way, he discovered a passion both for local seafood and for writing.

    Stowell's journalism career includes writing for The Boston Globe, United Press International and New Hampshire Public Radio. He began covering sustainable fisheries and seafood in 2011, and he now focuses on issues ranging from privatization of our oceans to the devastating impact of the proposed Pebble Mine in Bristol Bay, Alaska.

    Of the One Fish Foundation, Colles says, "Starting the Foundation is the confluence of my career and personal passions. My deep-seated interest in fisheries and in striking the right balance to support well-managed fisheries, transparent, local seafood systems, and healthy oceans for future generations drives One Fish Foundation."

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    The Marine Fish Conservation Network’s Waterside Chat series connects people who depend on healthy oceans and fisheries with the issues that directly affect them and their communities. Each episode the Network’s Deputy Director Tom Sadler talks with different guests about ocean policy and fisheries management topics. He engages them in genuine and thoughtful conversations about what policy decisions mean for people’s livelihoods, communities, recreation, and coastal ways of life.

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    57 mins
  • Salmon, Filmmaking and Bristol Bay: A Waterside Chat with Mark Titus
    Apr 3 2024

    Mark Titus joined the Marine Fish Conservation Network for a Waterside Chat on March 26, 2024. Mark's journey from fly-fishing guide in Alaska's Southeast to founder of Eva's Wild is a story of passion for salmon and the future of the planet. Mark wrote and directed The Breach and The Wild, two influential films about salmon and the fight to protect Alaska's Bristol Bay. His third film, The Turn, shines a light on the "twin-towers of imperative action" for salmon survival: permanent protection of Bristol Bay and removal of the lower four Snake River dams.

    Mark and host Tom Sadler sailed through a wide range of topics, including:

    • How a Snoopy rod & reel led Mark to a life of salmon
    • How he started at the bottom of the film world to learn how to create his own movies
    • Why he considers our destruction of salmon habitat as a breach of our contract with nature (hence the title of his first film)
    • Ongoing threats to salmon habitat in Alaska, including more litigation over Pebble Mine and toxic mining chemicals leaching into waters in Canada and flowing into the U.S.
    • How Eva's Wild, his salmon-distribution company, grew out of a food truck that accompanied his film screenings and featured wild Alaska salmon
    • How the company gives part of its profits to Indigenous-led efforts to protect and restore salmon habitat, supporting a sustainable economy based on a regenerative resource
    • The words of Indigenous leader Billy Frank Jr., who said, "As the salmon go, we go"
    • And, of course, much more!

    In this episode:

    • Connect with Eva's Wild: https://evaswild.com/pages/connect
    • Links to Mark's projects, including YouTube links for The Breach and The Wild: https://linktr.ee/markdtitus

    Watch more Waterside Chats or subscribe to the podcast: https://conservefish.org/resources/waterside-chat/

    The Marine Fish Conservation Network’s Waterside Chat series connects people who depend on healthy oceans and fisheries with the issues that directly affect them and their communities. Each episode the Network’s Deputy Director Tom Sadler talks with different guests about ocean policy and fisheries management topics. He engages them in genuine and thoughtful conversations about what policy decisions mean for people’s livelihoods, communities, recreation, and coastal ways of life.

    Join the Network's email list to learn about future Waterside Chats: https://conservefish.org/join-our-email-list/

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    59 mins
  • Salmon, Subsistence, Pebble Mine and More: Waterside Chat with Melanie Brown of SalmonState
    Jan 26 2024

    SalmonState's Melanie Brown joined the Marine Fish Conservation Network for an online Waterside Chat on January 23rd, 2024. Melanie fishes commercially in Bristol Bay in Alaska, the fourth generation of her family to make a living on the water. In her role as outreach director at SalmonState, Melanie builds spheres of influence to address marine policy challenges. In a conversation that started with a poem and ended with a song, Melanie and host Tom Sadler talked about:

    • The status of the Pebble Mine fight, which now moves to a federal district court, though Melanie hopes for an eventual legislative solution
    • How she was born into a fishing family, with her great-great grandfather still fishing when she started at ten years old (she got her permit from him when he retired) and her children following her
    • Her work with SalmonState, which grew out of Trout Unlimited's original organizing against Pebble Mine and now covers other issues in the Bering Sea and waters around Alaska, particularly bycatch
    • How the Pebble Fight brought together sport fishing interests, commercial fishing interests and Alaska's First People around protecting Bristol Bay
    • How mining development in Canada threatens U.S. waters, because "everything flows downstream"
    • The status of Magnuson-Stevens reauthorization, plus the work to derail a late Trump administration rule that would open 28 million acres of land to mining and oil & gas exploration
    • How wild salmon and other species including caribou play a big role in feeding people in Alaska, particularly the state's First People

    And much, much more!

    Mentioned in this Episode:

    • SalmonState: https://salmonstate.org/
    • Help keep protections in place for over 28 million acres: https://www.alaskalands.org/take-action
    • About the Magnuson-Stevens Act and its bipartisan tradition: https://conservefish.org/healthy-oceans/magnuson-stevens-act-upholding-a-legacy-of-success/

    Watch more Waterside Chats or subscribe to the podcast: https://conservefish.org/resources/waterside-chat/

    The Marine Fish Conservation Network’s Waterside Chat series connects people who depend on healthy oceans and fisheries with the issues that directly affect them and their communities. Each episode the Network’s Deputy Director Tom Sadler talks with different guests about ocean policy and fisheries management topics. He engages them in genuine and thoughtful conversations about what policy decisions mean for people’s livelihoods, communities, recreation, and coastal ways of life.

    Join the Network's email list to learn about future Waterside Chats: https://conservefish.org/join-our-email-list/

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  • Waterside Chat with Kevin Scribner - Fisherman, Poet and Advocate
    Dec 28 2023

    Kevin Scribner joined the Marine Fish Conservation Network in December 2023 for an online Waterside Chat with host Tom Sadler. Affectionally known as "Scribfish" by friends and colleagues, Kevin is a fisherman, poet, and advocate known for his eclectic and wide-ranging interests related to marine resource issues. Kevin and Tom covered a lot of ground (and water), including:

    • How "if you are what you eat", Kevin has become a salmon many times over
    • How salmon runs in the Pacific Northwest are hurt by bad management practices on dry land ("What runs off the land is how the land talks to the water")
    • How to work with landowners in a market-based program to improve their practices and help them earn a "Salmon Safe" designation
    • How this model can be applied to other species and other places, which is why he's recently been working with fishermen in Japan and Hawaii
    • How using local resources to solve local problems can help keep food systems (and people!) working during times of duress
    • Why you have to be a dreamer and an optimist to keep fishing

    Listen to the full conversation to hear about these topics and much more!

    Mentioned in this Chat:

    https://salmonsafe.org/
    https://wavefoundation.org/
    https://localcatch.org

    Watch this Chat on YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RQhJjuhgs_4
    Watch more Waterside Chats or subscribe to the podcast: https://conservefish.org/resources/waterside-chat/

    The Marine Fish Conservation Network’s Waterside Chat series connects people who depend on healthy oceans and fisheries with the issues that directly affect them and their communities. Each episode the Network’s Deputy Director Tom Sadler talks with different guests about ocean policy and fisheries management topics. He engages them in genuine and thoughtful conversations about what policy decisions mean for people’s livelihoods, communities, recreation, and coastal ways of life.

    Join the Network's email list to learn about future Waterside Chats: https://conservefish.org/join-our-email-list/

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    56 mins
  • Marine Sanctuaries & Protected Waters: A Waterside Chat with Joel Johnson
    Oct 1 2023

    Joel Johnson, the President and CEO of the National Marine Sanctuary Foundation, joined the Marine Fish Conservation Network and host Tom Sadler for an online Waterside Chat on Friday, September 22nd.

    The foundation is a leading voice for U.S. protected waters, working with communities to conserve and expand those special places for a healthy ocean, coasts, and Great Lakes. The foundation safeguards species and the places they call home, and preserves America's maritime history.

    * More about the National Marine Sanctuary Foundation: https://marinesanctuary.org/

    * Watch more Waterside Chats/subscribe to the podcast: https://conservefish.org/resources/waterside-chat/

    The Marine Fish Conservation Network’s Waterside Chat series connects people who depend on healthy oceans and fisheries with the issues that directly affect them and their communities. Each episode the Network’s Deputy Director Tom Sadler talks with different guests about ocean policy and fisheries management topics. He engages them in genuine and thoughtful conversations about what policy decisions mean for people’s livelihoods, communities, recreation, and coastal ways of life.

    Join the Network's email list to learn about future Waterside Chats: https://conservefish.org/join-our-email-list/

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    58 mins
  • Climate Change & Our Oceans: Waterside Chat with Jean Flemma
    Jul 25 2023

    Jean Flemma, co-founder of the Urban Ocean Lab and director of the Ocean Defense Initiative, joined the Marine Fish Conservation Network for an online Waterside Chat on July 19, 2023. Jean is a long-time policy hand and, as host Tom Sadler described her, “important and very wise counsel on ocean policy”. Their conversation covered a range of issues related to oceans and climate change, focusing on actions by the Biden administration and the Blueprint for Ocean Climate Action.

    Among many other topics, Jean and Tom discussed:

    • Why our food supply, coastal communities, coral reefs and more are threatened as the ocean warms and acidifies
    • Why if we want a livable planet for our children, we can no longer kick the climate can down the road
    • The Biden administration’s commitment to addressing climate change’s effects on our oceans, and how they are following through on it, including historic sums allocated for coastal-community resilience, electrification of ports and much more
    • Why NMFS needs to be doing a lot more to support fisheries managers in addressing the challenges climate change presents to our fisheries
    • How the Ocean Defense Initiative focuses on the idea of amplifying ocean issues, to help them break through with decision-makers
    • How Blueprint for Ocean Climate Action was crowdsourced from a wide swath of advocates, scientists and activists

    Learn more:

    • The Urban Ocean Lab
    • The Blueprint for Ocean Climate Action
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    56 mins