The segments on the two judges used in this episode of the Brattleboro Words Trail Podcast were produced and edited by Sally Seymour. Research, scripts and most narration is by Meg Mott. Some narration and commentary on the Judge Oakes segment was by Elizabeth Caitlin. The voice clip of Judge Oakes was from an October 23, 1979 James Madison Lecture at New York University and is used courtesy of the James L Oakes Collection at the Vermont Law School. The updating interview with Meg Mott was produced by Lissa Weinmann at BCTV studios in downtown Brattleboro. Segments on Oakes and Stone were mastered by Guilford Sound. Final podcast editing and mastering was by Alec Pombriant. Special thanks to Mara Williams for her help on the Judge Oakes segment. Thanks also to the sixth grade class at Chesterfield School who in 2021 pelted Mott with many questions about the Supreme Court and local hero Judge Stone.

Archives of the Honorable James L. Oakes https://www.vermontlaw.edu/wp-content/uploads/2024/07/Oakes-guide-Final.pdf

Judge Oakes on being an American citizen: https://www.myretrospect.com/stories/a-borrowed-story-from-my-neighbor-a-judge/

Our theme music is by Ty Gibbons. Thanks to the National Endowment for the Humanities, the Vermont Arts Council and the hundreds of volunteers and community members who support this work.