• Sufficient Design, Agile and High-Performing Teams with Josh Kerievsky from Industrial Logic

  • Jan 30 2025
  • Length: 35 mins
  • Podcast

Sufficient Design, Agile and High-Performing Teams with Josh Kerievsky from Industrial Logic

  • Summary

  • How do great teams build better software?


    In this episode of Distributed, host Jack Hannah speaks with Josh Kerievsky, founder and CEO of Industrial Logic and one of the earliest pioneers of Agile software development. Josh shares insights into the practices that help teams thrive, including sufficient design, pairing, ensembling, and continuous deployment. He also advocates for a balance between in-person and remote collaboration, the evolving role of AI in software development, and why a focused approach is what matters most for success.


    Highlights:

    • The concept of sufficient design and why perfection isn’t always necessary
    • How pairing and ensemble programming improve knowledge transfer and help develop stronger teams
    • The role of continuous deployment in elevating software delivery practices
    • Balancing in-person and remote collaboration to support team mental health
    • The potential and challenges of AI in software development


    In this episode, we cover:

    (00:00) – Kicking Things Off With Josh Kerievsky

    (03:00) – The Origins of Agile Software Development

    (07:00) – Sufficient Design: Balancing Perfection and Practicality

    (12:00) – Navigating Remote and In-Person Collaboration

    (15:00) – Pairing, Ensembling, and Knowledge Transfer Benefits

    (20:00) – Lessons From Building High-Performing Teams

    (25:00) – AI’s Role in the Future of Software Development

    (30:00) – Final Takeaway: Advice for Building Great Teams


    Referenced:

    Agile Manifesto: https://agilemanifesto.org/


    Where to connect further:

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