**Overview:**
In this episode, we conclude our insightful discussions with Dr. Agnes Bryan, focusing on Chapter 7 of her forthcoming book manuscript, which delves into the complex themes of race and racism.

**Key Discussion Points:**
- **Navigating Difficult Conversations:** Strategies for addressing racism and the importance of positional theory.
- **Empathy and Emotional Intelligence:** The roles of compassion and understanding in challenging dialogues.
- **Conflict in Relationships:** Exploring the fear and pain that can arise during sensitive conversations.
- **Creating Safe Spaces:** Techniques for fostering emotional connections and empathy in interactions.
- **Addressing Inequality:** Strategies for confronting conflict within organizations.
- **Holding Spaces:** Understanding the importance of creating supportive environments in professional settings.

**Reflection:**
Engaging with Agnes and exploring her profound insights on these crucial topics has been a tremendous privilege. I am eternally grateful for her contributions.

**Upcoming Event:**
As a member of the Anti-Racist Movement (ARM), I invite you to our Second Annual National Conference on November 22nd, where Dr. Agnes Bryan will be our keynote speaker. She will share her valuable insights on this year’s theme, “I See You” (ICU).

**Conference Highlights:**
- Workshops for students, newly qualified social workers, aspiring writers, and men interested in ARM.
- Opportunities to deepen understanding of allyship and the role of effective anti-racist group facilitators.
- Artistic performances and networking opportunities with like-minded individuals committed to systemic and structural change.

Join us for what promises to be an enriching and inspiring event!

Here is the link for the ICU event organised by Shantel Thomas - founder of ARM

https://www.eventbrite.co.uk/e/icu-or-i-see-you-annual-national-conference-from-the-anti-racist-movement-tickets-1007943996627?aff=ebdssbdestsearch

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In our last interview before the summer break, #DrAgnesBryan takes an even deeper dive into the role of the anti-racist facilitator/trainer in supporting transformation. She touches on the emotionality of the space, the feelings of the parties involved, and the need to keep moving forward through relationship-building and increasing our political savvy to promote understanding of the context in which race, racism, and discrimination are difficult to discuss.

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On the 5th Anniversary of The Social Workers Matter Podcast, Dr Sylvia is interviewed by Academic, writer and coach Ms Sharon Jennings.

Sylvia and Sharon discussed various aspects of Sylvia's life and career, including her interests, her approach to work, and her personal and professional journey regarding anti-racism. Additional discussion topics included Sylvia's Interests and Approach to Work, Anti-Racism Journeys and Collective Wisdom, Black African Women's Experiences and Legacy Preservation, Sylvia's Shift Towards Creativity and Fulfilment and Ancestral Resilience, Creativity, and Performing Arts.

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