In the final episode of Small World, comedian and Irish princess Joanne McNally sits down with the fantastic Palestinian performer and storyteller, Amir Abu Alrob.

Amir, a graduate of The Freedom Theatre in Palestine, brings a unique perspective to the chat. Quick to giggle and known for their incredible storytelling, Amir, who identifies as non-binary, shares their experiences and insights as a vibrant member of Dublin's artistic LGBTQIA+ community.

The pair dive into the nitty-gritty of life, finding the humor in the everyday and the love that connects us all. And, of course, they spill the tea on what it's really like dating Irish men. It's a chat that's open, honest, and, most importantly, a whole lot of fun.

With everything happening in Palestine at the moment, this episode is a chance to explore the universal threads that connect us all. Join Joanne McNally and Amir Abu Alrob for an episode that promises laughter, insight, and the joy of shared stories.

In this episode, Fionnuala Jones our fave podcaster and pop culture guru, chats to our new fave (soz Fionnuala) Ghazal Aljarad, a medical student whose journey from fleeing Syria at 17 to thriving in her late twenties is nothing short of inspiring.

Their chat feels like an instant connection between old friends, as they explore Ghazal's experience in Ireland, the warm welcome her family received, their shared grá for Cork city and how the apps are treating Ghazal. While the episode maintains a light-hearted and entertaining tone, it subtly delves into the serious aspect of the refugee experience, emphasising the resilience and normalcy of individuals like Ghazal.

Join Fionnuala and Ghazal for a mix of laughter, camaraderie, and insightful reflections on the shared humanity that transcends borders. This episode is a gorgeous l blend of entertainment and genuine conversation. 101/10 would reccomend to a friend.

In this compelling episode, acclaimed boxer and mental health advocate Mary-Kate Slattery engages in a heartfelt conversation with Ismail Mohammed, a remarkable individual whose journey from Nayapara Refugee Camp in Bangladesh to becoming a Captain of the cricket club in Carlow is nothing short of inspiring.

Ismail, who was just eleven years old when he arrived in Ireland, shares his childhood memories of gazing at helicopters in the camp and how that curiosity paved the way for his remarkable achievement—a Bachelor of Engineering (Honours) in Aerospace Engineering from SETU. Now 25, Ismail not only excels in his academic pursuits but also leads the cricket club, a symbol of resilience and unity within the Rohingya community.

Mary-Kate, a four-time boxing champion and a passionate mental health advocate, draws parallels between her own journey and Ismail's. Together, they explore the challenges of life in a refugee camp, the transformative power of education, and the profound impact of sports in fostering community bonds.

As two voices from different walks of life converge, this episode delves into the resilience, determination, and shared humanity that bind us all. Join Mary-Kate Slattery and Ismail Mohammed in a conversation that highlights the triumph of the human spirit and the profound connections that can be forged through sports and shared experiences.

Journalist and podcaster Louise McSharry sits down with Afshin Samali, a leading cancer researcher who fled Iran two decades ago

Louise and Afshin delve into the reasons behind Afshin leaving Iran, the twists and turns that led him to Ireland, and the vibrant community he has become an integral part of in Galway. Afshin's warmth, drive, and compassion shine through as he discusses his current endeavour—a charity dedicated to improving access to third-level education for refugees.

This conversation is a testament to the untapped potential of refugees and the incredible achievements possible when given the opportunity.

This podcast is about sharing great conversations, but it’s also a chance to highlight the UNHCR’s global campaign – ‘Hope Away from Home’ as well as an important event, the  ⁠Global Refugee Forum⁠ which takes place in Geneva in December. We’re trying to rally as much Irish support for refugees in the lead-in to the Forum by getting as many people as possible to sign our ⁠petition -  ⁠https://unh.cr/65573d040⁠

Comedian and podcaster Killian Sundermann sits down with Sharon Mpofu from Zimbabwe for a lighthearted chat that will leave you feeling fuzzy!

In this episode Killian and Sharon discover their shared love for comedy and  the power of music as a unifying force, discussing how both can transcend cultural differences and bring people together.

Sharon opens up about her journey through direct provision, shedding light on the challenges faced by refugees and emphasising the rich cultural contributions they bring to their adopted countries

This podcast is about sharing great conversations, but it’s also a chance to highlight the UNHCR’s global campaign – ‘Hope Away from Home’ as well as an important event, the  ⁠Global Refugee Forum⁠ which takes place in Geneva in December. We’re trying to rally as much Irish support for refugees in the lead-in to the Forum by getting as many people as possible to sign our ⁠petition -  https://unh.cr/65573d040

DJ and presenter Tara Kumar sits down with music producer Simba Bianchi. In this chat, Simba shares his experience of life in Direct provision, the hurdles of racism, the warmth of Ireland and how amidst adversity he came to music. Drawing inspiration from gospel music and later 50 Cent, today, Simba is an acclaimed music producer, collaborating with some of Ireland's most talented artists. His story is a perfect example of the cultural enrichment refugees bring to Ireland. 

Tara and Simba have an open, honest and friendly chat about life and music as well as giving some recommendations of tunes to add to your playlist. 

This podcast is about sharing great conversations, but it’s also a chance to highlight the UNHCR’s global campaign – ‘Hope Away from Home’ as well as an important event, the  ⁠Global Refugee Forum⁠ which takes place in Geneva in December. We’re trying to rally as much Irish support for refugees in the lead-in to the Forum by getting as many people as possible to sign our ⁠petition - https://unh.cr/654b65a60

In the first episode of Small World, broadcaster and designer Brendan Courtney chats to Kinda Nassli, a former Syrian TV presenter now living in Ireland. They explore their shared experiences in the world of broadcasting and navigate the complexities of the refugee system. Kinda shares her perspective on rewriting the refugee narrative. Through laughter and introspection, they discuss the challenges of leaving home and the joys of embracing a new life in Ireland. This open and honest dialogue captures the essence of human connection, resilience, and the power of redefining one's story.

The podcast is about sharing great conversations, but it’s also a chance to highlight the UNHCR’s global campaign – ‘Hope Away from Home’ as well as an important event, the  Global Refugee Forum which takes place in Geneva in December. We’re trying to rally as much Irish support for refugees in the lead-in to the Forum by getting as many people as possible to sign our petition  - https://unh.cr/654b65380 

This episode was recorded in September 2023.

Small World is a new podcast from The Useless Project and UNHCR, the UN Refugee Agency, that shares great conversations between well-known Irish voices and individuals from a refugee background living in Ireland. Open, honest and entertaining stories that show that refugees are just normal people.


This podcast aims to promote empathy, understanding, and solidarity with refugees in Ireland while highlighting the nation's welcoming spirit and rallying support ahead of the Global Refugee Forum 2023. Show your support for refugees by tuning in and signing the global petition unhcr.org/ie/hope.