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The title music is 'When There Are No Words' by Michael J Tinker.

Artwork by Jamin Still.

"I started by asking 'what is the faithful thing to say?' but now I feel the faithful thing is to bear witness to the whole thing..."

In the second episode of the series Michael chats with singer-songwriter Sara Groves. We talk depression and shame, honesty and beauty. We discuss the role of the artist as they help others process what they are going through. And soup somehow gets in there too...

A fascinating and uplifting discussion, rounded off with Sara's song 'Enough' from her 2015 album 'Floodplains'.

Other albums mentioned:

What Makes It Through (2021)

Fireflies and Songs (2009)

Transcript

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About Your Host

Michael J Tinker is a singer-songwriter based in Somerset, England. He normally is found making music for children but has recently released an album exploring grief and hope, which led him to want to talk to other artists who are doing the same.

Check out the album at michaeljtinker.com

Also, why not have a listen to our sister-podcast for all the family - 'Tinker-Time!'

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