"In any corner of the radical left it makes most sense for this conversation to be happening, in my opinion, it's in the folk punk world."

Community organizer and musician shugE joins Pepe to discuss the tactics of cancel culture & rethink if they align with folk punk & radical politics in general. Is cancel culture the best way to create a better world? Does it reproduce harmful aspects of the carceral/prison system? Plenty of folks have expressed concerns & fears about discussing these topics freely . As a result the conversation very often happens privately, outside the public discourse but, shugE & Pepe choose to have it openly through this public platform. The conversation is at times difficult & uncomfortable but remains honest with a desire for a better world full of more compassion & care for every one of us living in it. We close out playing the song "With Me" by shugE.

HIGHLIGHTS:

• Organizing with the IWW
• Getting canceled & getting exonerated
• Seeking out commonalities rather than our differences
• Does cancel culture even exist?
• Famous people & cancel culture
• Defining cancel culture
• Pepe realizes the similarities between cancel culture & his own incarceration experience
• Hypocrisy of supporting prison abolition & cancel culture/putting people in social prisons
• Working with people who experienced sexual abuse/assault
• Working with people who have problematic/harmful behaviors
• Restorative justice
• Why cancel culture is attractive
• Getting to a place of healing
• Daryl Davis & the KKK story
• Self-censorship
• The recovery movement & its role in questioning cancel culture
• Folkpunk has a history of embracing the "rejects" of society
• The "commons" as a place for open discussion
• We play the song "With Me" by shugE

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instagram.com/shugemusic/

shugemusic.com

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