In this episode, Jonathan Ogden takes us inside his creative world—where authenticity, balance, and inspiration shape his music. We chat about drawing from nature, literature, and life itself to keep songwriting fresh. He shares insights on the shift toward genuine content on social media, the joy of real connections with fans, and the challenges of being an independent artist. If you're a songwriter looking for wisdom and fresh perspective, this one's for you.

TIMESTAMPS
[00:00] Introduction & Childhood Dreams
Jonathan shares his unexpected childhood dream of having an office job and the essence of songwriting.
[00:47] Creative Process & Meeting in Person
The balance between personal expression and audience connection in songwriting, plus the excitement of finally meeting after texting.
[01:39] Voice Messages vs. Texting & Project Songbird's Mission
A lighthearted chat on voice messages vs. texting, followed by an introduction to the podcast’s goal of supporting independent artists.
[03:32] Jonathan’s Musical Journey & Early Influences
From his musical family background to discovering his path in music.
[05:26] Transition to Music Production & SoundCloud Beginnings
How he shifted from graphic design to music, and the early days of sharing music on SoundCloud.
[07:30] The Origin of "Dancing Robots" & Independent Artist Journey
Jonathan explains his unique band name and the decision to remain independent in the industry.
[09:39] Songwriting Process & Collaboration vs. Solo Writing
Insights into how his songwriting has evolved and the contrast between writing alone and with others.
[12:56] Music Production & Co-Writing Experiences
His production approach, the importance of collaboration, and the mixed feelings about co-writing.
[16:09] Listener Consideration & Final Thoughts on Songwriting
Balancing personal expression with audience connection, and the privilege of impacting listeners.
[19:02] Authenticity in Music & Independent Artist Life
The importance of genuine artistry and the advantages of being independent.
[21:52] Challenges & Team Dynamics
Managing everything as an independent artist and the necessity of having a supportive team.
[23:23] The UK’s Influence on Jonathan’s Artistry & Genre Struggles
How living in the UK shapes his music and feeling out of place in the UK scene.
[26:06] Community & Breaking Genre Boundaries
Finding like-minded artists and embracing music beyond strict genre definitions.
[27:47] Creative Process, Variety & Embracing Change
Blending styles while keeping a cohesive sound and navigating artistic evolution.
[32:47] Songwriting Accomplishments & Overcoming Self-Doubt
Jonathan reflects on key milestones and the challenges of self-doubt.
[37:45] Practical Creativity Strategies & Songwriting Inspiration
Tackling creative blocks and finding inspiration in nature, music, and poetry.
[39:34] Authenticity in Content & The Shift to Casual Creation
[43:30] Engaging with Fans & Current Projects
[46:46] Advice for Songwriters & Closing Thoughts


ABOUT PROJECT SONGBIRD
Project Songbird provides full song production, mixing and mastering services, a place for songwriters to experience community, and educational resources. Our podcast aims to provide insightful conversations hosted by industry professionals, David and KMO, that help enrich the songwriter's experience.
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In this episode, we sit down with Australian musician and songwriter Ben Potter to explore his inspiring journey into songwriting. Ben shares how prophecy and collaboration shaped his path, the lessons he learned at Bethel School, and how he balances music with a career in creative design. He offers practical tips on managing production costs, outsourcing, and the patience it takes to create music that truly resonates. Join us as we dive into faith, creativity, and the unique challenges musicians face.

[02:40] Ben's Music Background
Ben talks about his extensive music career, including streaming success and numerous songs.
[03:07] Journey into Songwriting
Ben recounts his early experiences in church and the desire to write songs for his community.
[07:41] Bethel School Experience
Ben discusses attending Bethel School, where he met his wife and deepened his musical journey.
[16:00] Open-Mindedness in Beliefs
They talk about the importance of being open-minded while navigating differing beliefs within the church.
[17:51] Sustaining a Music Career
Ben shares insights on balancing financial sustainability and creativity in his music career.
[20:55] Collaboration and Cost-Cutting
Discussion on balancing creative work and outsourcing tasks to save time and energy.
[21:18] Outsourcing vs. Personal Work
Ben explains the importance of knowing what to outsource in music production.
[21:46] Quality Over Compromise
The necessity of maintaining quality in music production and avoiding DIY pitfalls.
[23:13] Personal vs. Collaborative Writing
Ben shares his approach to songwriting, emphasizing personal investment and collaboration.
[24:17] Production and Instrumentation
Exploration of production roles and the decision to outsource challenging instrumentation.
[25:44] Creative Collaboration
The benefits of inviting others into the creative process for fresh ideas.
[26:27] Mastering Tracks
Discussion on the value of having different perspectives in mastering music.
[27:52] Learning to Focus
The importance of focusing on core strengths rather than trying to do everything.
[28:09] Financial Considerations in Music
How financial planning can impact creative projects and expectations.
[29:32] Co-Writing Experiences
Ben reflects on his favorite co-writing experiences and their significance.
[30:10] Songwriting Process
Details about the collaborative process behind a specific song, "Kind."
[32:35] Emotional Connection in Writing
The personal and emotional journey that influences songwriting.
[34:55] Defining Great Songs
What makes a song great in Ben's opinion, focusing on originality and relatability.
[38:39] Challenges in Songwriting
Ben opens up about self-doubt and the pressures of creating new music.
[43:28] Seeking Honest Feedback
The conversation shifts to the importance of having trusted people for song feedback.
[49:45] Upcoming Music Projects
Ben reveals plans for a new ambient project and collaborations in the works.
[51:20] Advice for Aspiring Songwriters

ABOUT PROJECT SONGBIRD
Project Songbird provides full song production, mixing and mastering services, a place for songwriters to experience community, and educational resources. Our podcast aims to provide insightful conversations hosted by industry professionals, David and KMO, that help enrich the songwriter's experience.

Check out our channel here:
https://www.youtube.com/@Project.songbird
Don’t forget to subscribe!

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In this episode, we sit down with our friend Maliek Burrell to talk about all things singing. Maliek breaks down how he takes care of his voice and stays prepared, just like an athlete. Whether you’re just starting or have been singing for years, his tips on warming up and finding your own style will inspire you!

TIMESTAMPS
[00:00] Introduction to Vocal Techniques
Explores the misconception of singing as effortless and the parallels between singing and athletic performance.
[01:08] Maliek's Singing Journey
Details Maliek's early experiences with singing and how it developed into a passion.
[02:29] Theater Influence
Discusses how theater shaped Maliek’s aspirations and vocal approach.
[04:35] Formation of Steel Toe Stiletto
Reveals the story behind the creation of Maliek's wedding band, Steel Toe Stiletto.
[05:25] Steel Toes Stiletto's Performance Scope
Highlights the events and performances the band takes on.
[07:18] Preparation for Performances
Outlines Maliek’s hydration and warm-up routine for optimal performance.
[12:41] Straw Phonation Technique
Explains the benefits of using straws for vocal health and warm-ups.
[15:44] Daily Vocal Care
Highlights the importance of maintaining vocal health beyond performance days.
[19:53] Managing Vocal Strain
Covers strategies for reducing strain during rehearsals and performances.
[21:26] Diet's Impact on Vocal Health
Advises on avoiding caffeine, dairy, and other foods that impact vocal quality.
[27:06] Finding Your Own Voice
Encourages embracing individuality and developing a unique vocal style.
[31:03] Feedback and Growth in Singing
Explores the value of constructive feedback and collaboration in music.
[39:34] Preparing for Studio Recording
Provides tips on mental preparation and staying authentic in the studio environment.
[44:58] Closing Thoughts on Authenticity
Maliek's advice on staying true to oneself and enjoying the journey.

ABOUT PROJECT SONGBIRD
Project Songbird provides full song production, mixing and mastering services, a place for songwriters to experience community, and educational resources. Our podcast aims to provide insightful conversations hosted by industry professionals, David and KMO, that help enrich the songwriter's experience.
Check out our channel here:
https://www.youtube.com/@Project.songbird
Don’t forget to subscribe!

GEAR WE USE
https://projectsongbird.com/pages/gear-we-use
OUR SERVICES
https://projectsongbird.com/pages/our-services

FIND US AT
https://projectsongbird.com/

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