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Neal Foard has spent 30 years in advertising and marketing, creating award-winning campaigns for global power brands like Budweiser, Sony and Lexus. For his work on Toyota, Neal ranked among the top ten most awarded creative directors in the world in 2002. As the author of an innovative talent development series, Neal was named Worldwide Director of Creative Learning for global ad agency Saatchi & Saatchi.

He has consulted on creative messaging for Fortune 500 companies, governments and universities and been a featured speaker at TEDx conferences. Most recently, Neal has gained a following on social media for his inspirational videos about the kindnesses of everyday people.

A Quote From This Episode

• "Curiosity and humility. Boy, those are going to go a long way as a leader."

Resources Mentioned in This Episode

• Youtube - Neal's YouTube Channel
• Website - Neal's Website
• TedTalk - Neal's TedTalk
• Empathy Video - Cleveland Clinic
• Book - The Brothers Karamazov by Dostoevsky
• Poet - Charles Bukowski

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After a life of playing professional baseball, Josh Lindblom quickly realized he had nothing on his resume between "player here" and "player there." He felt a deep longing to discover who he had been created to be so that he could do what he had been designed to do. After being guided through retirement by a coach and having numerous discussions with friends and teammates, he realized that the longing he felt also resided deep and unsurfaced in the hearts of everyone he talked to. Congruency quickly changed from something he wanted to do to something he had to do.

Josh is married to his high school sweetheart, Aurielle. They have four children. He enjoys getaway weekends with his wife, coaching his kids and their friends in any and every sport, and hosting friends for any and every reason—like a spontaneous Royal Rumble party.

Josh has a Master’s in Biblical Studies (MABS), a personal and leadership development certification from Leader Breakthru, and an Associate Certified Coach certification (ACC) from the International Coaching Federation.

Josh’s greatest passion is walking alongside others as they discover who they are and decide to make the courageous choice to align who they are with what they do each day of their lives.

A Quote From Josh

• "We help you make your invisible life visible so you can break free from where you are and become who you were created to be."

Resources Mentioned in This Episode

• Organization: Congruency
• Book: Garden City by John Mark Comer
• Book: Strengthening the Soul of Your Leadership by Ruth Haley Barton
• Book: Life Without Lack by Dallas Willard

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Carey Jaros brings passion for our Purpose — Saving Lives and Making Life Better Through Well-Being Solutions — to her daily work at GOJO (the makers of Purell). Her focus is on continuously extending GOJO leadership as a market-making, growth-oriented Company that cares about the health and well-being of people worldwide and within its walls. Carey joined GOJO in 2014 as a board member, then held executive roles as Chief Strategy Officer – where she oversaw Marketing, Product Management, and Innovation – and as Chief Operating Officer before becoming President and CEO in January 2020.

As an operator, investor, and board member, Carey has worked on and in more than 50 organizations— from established public and private companies, to startups and non-profits. Prior to GOJO, Carey was the President of Walnut Ridge Strategic Management Company, and was a Vice President at Dealer Tire, a large privately held tire distributor. She spent the first 12 years as a management consultant at Bain & Company.

Carey is a Board Director of Grocery Outlet (NASDAQ: GO) and an Advisory Board Member of venture-backed menstrual products startup Aunt Flow. She also serves on the Boards of The Cleveland Foundation, University Hospitals, and Laurel School.

Carey received her A.B. in Public Policy from Brown University and an MBA from Harvard Business School. She and her husband live in Northeast Ohio with their three children.

A Quote

• "We have a whole-systems approach to social, environmental, and economic sustainability, including certification as a WBE, product certifications, and a vertically integrated supply chain. With our strong foundation in place, we're advancing our Sustainable Value strategy and action plan."

Resources Mentioned in This Episode

• Book - The Journey Home: Autobiography of an American Swami
• Website - Frances Frei and Anne Morriss
• Book - Unleashed by Frances Frei and Anne Morriss
• Ted Talk - How to Build (and Rebuild) Trust by Frances Frei
• Podcast - Fixable

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Ralph A. Gigliotti, Ph.D., serves as Assistant Vice President for Organizational Leadership in University Academic Affairs at Rutgers University. In this role, he directs the Office of Organizational Leadership and provides executive leadership for a portfolio of signature leadership programs, consultation services, and research initiatives. Ralph regularly partners with campus leaders on projects of strategic importance, and he serves as an executive advisor for senior academic leaders across Rutgers in the areas of change leadership, crisis leadership, organizational strategy, and continuous improvement.

He holds part-time faculty appointments in the Department of Communication (School of Communication and Information), Ph.D. Program in Higher Education (Graduate School of Education), Department of Family Medicine and Community Health (Robert Wood Johnson Medical School), and Rutgers Business School. He is author and editor of 10 books and nearly 50 journal articles and book chapters on topics related to organizational communication and leadership in higher education.

Ralph is president of the Network for Change and Continuous Innovation (NCCI) —an organization of nearly 100 colleges and universities from across North America who seek to advance sustainable excellence in higher education by promoting successful practices and approaches used to drive change, innovation, and continuous improvement across academic and administrative functions.

We had two other guests toward the end of the episode who promoted some upcoming events with the Network for Change and Continuous Innovation (NCCI).

• Kim-Marie Jenkins, Senior Director for Organizational Change and Culture, University of Maine System
• Rick Wernoski, Associate Vice Chancellor for Operational Excellence, University of North Carolina, Chapel Hill

A Quote From This Episode

• "We find ourselves at a moment in time where individuals, organizations, and communities are responding to the waves of change."

Resources Mentioned in This Episode

• Book: Post-Crisis Leadership: Resilience Renewal and Reinvention in the Aftermath of Disruption by Gigliotti
• Organization: Network for Change and Continuous Innovation (NCCI)
• Learning Opportunity: NCCI In-Person Institutes
• Book: Grant by Ron Chernow
• Book: Whatever It Is, I’m Against It: Resistance to Change in Higher Education by Rosenberg

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GC Myers is a contemporary painter from the Finger Lakes region of New York. He came to painting in mid-life and quite by accident, as a result of an accident that occurred while building his home in the early 1990s. Since that time, his recognizable landscapes, known for their strong colors and moods, are avidly collected here and abroad.

Over the years, he has had over 60 one-man exhibitions at galleries across the country which represent his work. These solo exhibits have taken place at galleries in New York, Pennsylvania, Virginia, North Carolina, and California.

In 2012, Myers' work was featured in an exhibition, "Internal Landscapes: The Paintings of GC Myers," at the Fenimore Art Museum in Cooperstown, NY.

A Quote From This Episode

• "Art is about connection; you've got to be a full person. You've got to be a well-rounded person. Eventually, it shows if you're not."

Resources Mentioned in This Episode

• Website - GC Myers
• Blog - RedTree Times
• Book - In Quiet Places by GC Myers
• Documentary - GC Myers: Finding Home
• Paintings - Archeology Series by GC Myers
• Musician - Bill Mize
• Musician/Composer - Moondog
  • "I do not strive to be different for the sake of being different, but do not mind being different if my difference is a result of my being myself" - Moondog
• Book: Demian by Hermann Hesse
  • “The bird fights its way out of the egg. The egg is the world. Who would be born must first destroy a world. The bird flies to God. That God's name is Abraxas.” - Hermann Hesse, Demian

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Marianne Crosley retired as President and Chief Executive Officer of the Cleveland Leadership Center after leading the civic education leadership development and civic engagement organization for 14 years. Under her leadership programs to build civic leadership in Greater Cleveland grew significantly to reach 600 individuals across generations annually.

In addition, she launched SPARK, an annual leadership conference, and Accelerate, an annual civic pitch competition. Prior to assuming the helm at the Leadership Center she served as the founding Executive Director of Summer on the Cuyahoga. This economic development initiative attracts young talent to Northeast Ohio.

She has received numerous awards, including Crain's Cleveland Business Woman of Note, Smart Business Progressive Woman, Non-Profit Executive Director of the Year, and the Lifetime Legacy Award from the Association of Leadership Programs. She is passionate about creating positive community change and has leadership roles on several non-profit boards.

A Quote From This Episode

• "We make sure that each program is structured differently so you can begin with your high school program and move on to our collegiate, young professional, mid-career, and senior levels. And it's all a journey - you're not repeating anything that you're learning. You're being exposed to new concepts and new people every step of the way."

Resources Mentioned in This Episode

• Association of Leadership Programs
• Cleveland Leadership Center
• Lovely One by Ketanji Brown Jackson

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Dr. David V. Day holds appointments as Professor of Psychological Science and Leadership and serves as the Academic Director of the Kravis Leadership Institute at Claremont McKenna College in California (USA). He has published more than 100 peer-reviewed journal articles, books, and book chapters, many pertaining to the core topics of leadership and leadership development and is the author of the recent book titled “Developing Leaders and Leadership: Principles, Practices, and Processes.” David received the 2024 Eminent Scholar Award from the Network of Leadership Scholars at the Academy of Management and the Lifetime Achievement Award from the International Leadership Association.

Quotes From Developing Leaders and Leadership

• "Just because an activity is fun or enjoyable does not mean it is developmental. It perpetuates the predominant mindset that leadership development is a like a pass to an amusement park. You go on a bunch of rides, maybe play some games, have a laugh or two, and write it off as your developmental investment in leadership for the year."
• "Attending a few workshops or programs spread out over time is not going to do much in terms of developing expert-level leadership. There needs to be
  an ongoing commitment to practicing one’s leadership to get the time
  and amount of deliberate practice to become that expert leader."
• "The lack of evidence to support the effectiveness of leadership development in for-profit organizations and corporations is unsettling, to say the least."
• "Sending a changed person back into an unchanged system tends to be an exercise in futility. A systems perspective incorporates environmental influence into the design and delivery of leader development interventions."

Resources Mentioned in This Episode

• David Day on Google Scholar
• Book: Developing Leaders and Leadership: Principles, Practices, and Processes by Day
• Assessment: International Personality Item Pool (IPIP)
• Book: Tiny Habits by BJ Fogg
• Book: The Power Broker by Robert Caro
• Network - Criterion Channel

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Cathy Carroll learned about family business leadership the best way you can – by leading her family business. After a twenty-year corporate career, she left United Airlines to lead her father’s business and instantly recognized a difference between leadership in a family business vs leadership in a large corporation.

Founder and President of Legacy Onward, Inc., Cathy Carroll is a family business leadership coach and author of Hug of War: How to Lead a Family Business With both Love and Logic. She also trains advisors serving in family enterprises as well as coaches who maintain their credential with the International Coaching Federation.

Cathy earned certificates in both Leadership Coaching and Executive Facilitation at Georgetown University, an MBA at the University of Chicago Booth School of Business, and a BA at Boston College. She is also a Professional Certified Coach (PCC) in the ICF.

An active member of the community, Cathy currently serves as Vice-Chair the Board of the Purposeful Planning Instituteand co-founder & Treasurer of A Leg To Stand On which provides prosthetic limbs to children in developing countries.

Quote From This Episode

• "There are these polarities that live within us that lead to huge blind spots, and our reactive tendency is to double down on our strength, which puts us into 'overuse.'"

Resources Mentioned in This Episode

• Book: Hug of War: How to Lead a Family Business With Both Love and Logic
• Book: Polarity Management by Johnson
• Book: Polarity Intelligence by Christopherson and Troseth
• Book: Navigating Polarities by Emerson and Lewis
• Book: Family Business as Paradox by Schuman, Stutz, & Ward
• Website: Legacy Onward: Leadership Coaching for Family Business
• Television Show: House
• Quote: "A child who is not embraced by the village will burn it down to feel its warmth" - African Proverb
  
  

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