On this episode, we interview author and historian Peter Levenda, who together with Blink-182 cofounder and UFO-juggernaut Tom DeLonge, both of To The Stars, has written a non-fiction trilogy of books called “Sekret Machines: Gods, Man, and War."

In this interview we discuss the UFO/NHI phenomenon, its source, and the myriad implications and complexities that surround it all.

The heavily anticipated final volume in their series, “War,” was just released. And once again, Levenda and DeLonge provide their readers with a meticulously researched and stunningly thorough examination of how this phenomenon has manifested itself through the lenses of war, conflict, invasion, colonialism, power, and a signature kind of unsettling strangeness.

The book is itself a tapestry of intersecting threads, from the technologies developed by the most brilliant minds of Nazi Germany and where they ended up after World War II, to an astonishing roster of folks in and around the military industrial complex who were themselves experiencers dabbling in dark arts and at times making contact with unknown intelligences that seemed intent on impacting human civilization.

We discuss all this, as well as how humanity — and individual humans — can protect themselves through the application of a spiritual technology: occultism.

We explore how the United States defense establishment views this phenomenon, and what that brain trust believes about surviving remnants of Nazi Germany, and its alignment with otherworldly elements.

We also discuss the advent of AI, and what it means ffor our ongoing contact with NHI, and how the actual field of interaction is human consciousness, and not merely the skies or planet Earth.

Levenda also comments on the notion — put forth by Seth Peribsen and others through their NAC Protocol — that fungi may be the vector of NHI manipulation.

Overall, Levenda here and in his book reveals a presence in our midst, a wizard behind the curtain of history who can enchant us with glittering objects in the sky, with technologies torn from myth and fiction, and with mysteries that make us doubt our ability to understand our own experience.

Our discussion centers on what’s to be done with that information.

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