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Off The Page

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A thought leadership platform for discussions with industry-leading experts, Off The Page Podcast, keeps you at the forefront of the latest business insights and best practices for all personal and professional development. Off The Page presents thoughtful discussions between bestselling experts across industries, bringing you a powerful and indispensable resource. For more information visit www.koganpage.com Save 25% at checkout with discount code OTP25! #Wellbeing #Sustainability #AI #Books #HR #Marketing #ResponsibleBusinessKogan Page Economics
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  • Reimagining Workplace Learning: Mindset, Technology and the Future of Work
    Dec 9 2025

    In a fast-changing world, learning isn’t a checkbox; it’s a mindset.

    Drawing on their knowledge of Learning and Development, Kasper and Donald explore how professional development has shifted from a top-down process to a self-driven pursuit. From apprenticeships enhanced by AI to peer-to-peer knowledge-sharing and digital courses that fit around flexible work, they discuss how organizations can build a genuine learning culture that lasts.

    Explore the limits of technology in corporate learning and how AI can’t replace the human experience of mentorship, reflection and skill-building. Creating a culture of continuous learning takes time, trust and commitment from both leaders and individuals.

    About the authors:

    Kasper Spiro has been involved in knowledge sharing, performance support and e-learning for over three decade and independently advises organizations in learning and development. He is an international speaker, podcast host and author for various L&D magazines and was the co-founder and CEO at Easygenerator for 12 years. He is the co-author of Employee-Generated Learning.

    Donald H Taylor began his career in technology and training in the early 1980s. His experience since then ranges from training design and delivery to managing director and vice-president positions. He is Chairman of the Learning Technologies Conference and the author of Learning Technologies in the Workplace.

    Where to find them:

    Kasper

    LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/kasperspiro/

    Website: kasperspiro.com

    Donald

    LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/donaldhtaylor/

    Website: donaldhtaylor.co.uk

    TIME STAMPS

    00:00 – Introductions

    01:15 – Why did you write a book all about L&D?

    03:07 – Employee expectations around learning in the past decade

    15:34 – Is it a risk to rely too heavily on tech for learning?

    28:45 – Creating an open and honest culture

    35:18 – What shift is needed in L&D over the next 5 years?

    45:09 – One key thing you learned from writing your book

    49:37 – Where to find the authors

    #LearningAndDevelopment #CorporateLearning #FutureOfWork #Leadership #AI #Upskilling #ContinuousLearning #OrganizationalCulture #OffThePage #BusinessBooks

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    51 mins
  • Operating Models Reimagined: Aligning Business and HR for Agility and Impact
    Dec 2 2025

    What happens when the systems we’ve built can no longer keep up with the pace of change?

    Drawing on their insights and expertise, Perry and Kent explore how technologies such as generative AI continue to drive disruption, with many organizations finding that their operating models are too rigid to adapt. They explore how HR can take the lead in reinventing these models and place data, technology and people at the centre to evolve from being a function of delivery to a designer of the future workplace.

    They discuss how human and machine collaboration can create a win-win ecosystem, where adaptability becomes a mindset and innovation an everyday reality. The organizations that learn to redesign continuously are the ones that will thrive.

    About the authors:

    Perry Timms has more than 20 years' experience in HR and organizational development and is the Founder and Chief Energy Officer at People & Transformational HR Ltd. He is the author of Transformational HR, The Energized Workplace and The HR Operating Model.

    Kent McMillan is a thought leader, innovator, consultant and a regular speaker in the area of operating model and organization design and implementation. He is a managing director at Accenture and holds two US patents for Accenture's organization analytics and design platform. He is the co-author of Rethinking Operating Models.

    Where to find them:

    Perry

    LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/perrytimms/

    Website: pthr.co.uk

    Kent

    LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/akentmm/

    Website: accenture.com/us-en/services/talent-organization/future-organization

    TIME STAMPS

    00:00 – Introductions

    01:05 – Why did you decide to write a book on HR Operating Models?

    07:08 – What is an operating model?

    15:39 – HR as the designer and enabler of organizational agility

    27:23 – Adopting more strategic operating models

    38:28 – One thing leaders can do to reshape operating models for the future

    47:36 – One key thing you learned from writing your book

    51:16 – Where to find the authors


    #FutureOfWork #AgileHR #OperatingModels #DigitalTransformation #GenerativeAI #HRLeadership #OrganizationalChange #BusinessStrategy #OffThePage #BusinessBooks

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    53 mins
  • Decoding Data: Curiosity, Confidence and Communication in the Digital Age
    Nov 25 2025

    We all know data is everywhere, but how do we really make sense of it?

    Drawing on their expertise, Adam and Nicholas unpack what data literacy means in practice. They explore the difference between correlation and causation, how to build the confidence to ask questions, challenge assumptions and how to engage with data on your own terms.

    Discover why data isn’t just for analysts. It’s about learning the language, developing curiosity, and collaborating with others to bring meaningful data-driven thinking into every part of your role. Whether you’re early in your career or leading a team, you’ll learn how to own your seat at the table, build your data vocabulary, bring meaningful data-driven thinking into every part of your role and turn information into confident decision-making.

    About the authors:

    Adam Ross Nelson is a data science consultant and career coach based. Having transitioned into the data science field from his career as an attorney, he helps those looking to develop their data science skills, pivot their career or improve their career trajectory. He is the author of Confident Data Science.

    Nicholas Kelly is a principal at G&K Consulting and is a leader in analytics adoption having designed and developed dashboards for some of the world's largest companies, from global banks to Formula 1 teams. He is the inventor of the Dashboard Wireframe Kit and is the author of Delivering Data Analytics and How to Interpret Data.

    Where to find them:

    Adam

    LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/arnelson/

    Website: coaching.adamrossnelson.com/free-booklet

    Nicholas

    LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/nicholaspkelly/

    Website: deliveringdataanalytics.com

    TIME STAMPS

    00:00 – Introduction

    00:53 – Why did you write a book on data?

    02:54 – Overcoming data jargon

    07:23 – Common mistakes when interpreting data

    11:30 – Speaking confidently about data

    18:27 – Making data relatable

    24:26 – One key thing you learned from writing your book

    28:59 – Where to find the authors

    #DataLiteracy #Analytics #DecisionMaking #DigitalSkills #CareerDevelopment #Leadership #DataCulture #OffThePage #BusinessBooks

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    30 mins
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