No Script Show

By: Nathan Wrigley David Waumsley
  • Summary

  • A show for people who build websites. A podcast on modern frontend web design where we look at what we can build today with minimal dependencies and skills. We're building this website as part of the show.

    Copyright 2023 Nathan Wrigley, David Waumsley
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Episodes
  • Ep15. Static vs dynamic for content heavy websites
    Jan 9 2025

    On the podcast today, we’re diving deep into a crucial discussion for website developers and enthusiasts alike: the considerations between static and dynamic content-heavy websites. I’m joined by our hosts, Nathan Wrigley and David Waumsley, who will unravel the complexities of these two approaches.


    Throughout their conversation, Nathan and David explore various facets of website architecture, starting with the fundamental concept of atomizing components like headers and footers for efficient management. They delve into the resurgence of a more code-centric web development practice as opposed to the no-code trend typically associated with WordPress.


    Static site generators are a hot topic in this episode, with David and Nathan highlighting popular options like Hugo, 11ty, Next JS, and Astro. Despite these tools’ growing popularity, they don’t shy away from discussing the challenges, such as the need for technical skills and the overwhelming choice of over 365 static site generators.


    WordPress, a staple in their web development careers, is contrasted with newer static site approaches, noting the ease of use versus the deep control over code output. They also weigh in on SEO and automation considerations, crucial for content-heavy sites, and the financial aspects tied to maintaining WordPress sites.


    In a candid moment, David shares his experience transitioning to 11ty, a flexible static site generator favored for its simplicity and quick build times. They discuss the learning curve, especially for those not well-versed in JavaScript, and the potential of using 11ty for larger projectsThe dynamic vs. static debate continues as they consider the future of their own website, touching on personal reflections and the exciting possibilities that come with exploring new technologies.


    If you’re navigating the choice between dynamic content management systems like WordPress and the evolving landscape of static site generators, this episode promises valuable insights and practical advice. Tune in, and join Nathan and David as they tackle the dynamic and static showdown head-on.

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    37 mins
  • Ep14. The Frontend Divide: UX Designers vs JavaScript Specialists
    Jul 23 2024

    In this episode of No Script Show, Nathan Wrigley and David Waumsley dive into the evolving landscape of frontend development, focusing on the divide between UX designers and JavaScript specialists. Join us for a detailed discussion on the complexities and dynamics of modern web design.

    • The role of Google and Meta in open source and their impact on project stability.
    • Evolution of CSS and JavaScript, including trends like using CSS as a programming language.
    • The growing complexity and specialisation in frontend development and its effects on newcomers.
    • Insights on the divide within WordPress development between block editors and traditional coding.
    • Emerging technologies like Web Assembly and their anticipated impact on web development.

    Timestamps:

    00:00 Summary: Last topic on WP Builds platform, relevant WordPress changes.

    05:20 Concerns about changes in web design industry.

    08:29 Women find communication jobs using HTML, JavaScript.

    11:11 Complex code could impact performance and users.

    15:56 Google and other companies support open source.

    17:44 JavaScript essential for front end developers.

    21:36 CSS grid enables fluid web design breakthroughs.

    23:21 Apple's advertising of seemingly pointless features.

    28:17 Efficient tools simplify CSS coding and structure.

    32:20 Brave browser activates reader mode automatically.

    33:22 Desire for web integration in everyday objects.

    37:05 Gutenberg's impact on WordPress page building.

    42:00 Coyier's article emphasises WebPress development and winners.

    43:16 Transitioning to video content from podcast.

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    44 mins
  • Ep13. What is the W3C doing about AI?
    Jul 17 2024

    Join Nathan Wrigley and David Waumsley as they dive into the latest W3C report on AI and its impact on the web, exploring the future of AI standards and ethical considerations. Discover the potential and challenges AI brings to web browsing, creativity, and data management.

    • Discussion on environmental costs and sustainability of AI technology.
    • Concerns about AI over-hype and its impact on creative and entry-level jobs.
    • Insights into the W3C's proposed AI standards for transparency and data control.
    • The debate over AI's ability to understand the context in creative tasks.
    • Potential regulatory roles of governments and the changing perspectives on data ownership.

    Timestamps:

    00:00 AI may eliminate entry-level creative career opportunities.

    06:03 CSS evolving backward to old techniques, concerns.

    08:15 AI struggles with decision-making, enjoys watching mistakes.

    13:02 Questioning involvement with global, political, economic motives.

    16:18 Report outlines stages: input, interviews, standardization, success.

    17:52 AI impact and ethical concerns in technology.

    21:03 AI poses threat to web accessibility, SEO.

    24:22 Support for HTML markup for accessibility despite pushback.

    28:39 Personal connection drives services, predicts big tech breakup.

    32:44 AI progress may slow due to costs.

    34:34 Human condition demands continuous exponential improvement in content.

    37:32 Organizations' short-term profit vs. long-term AI future.

    40:39 David will make changes, but it was lovely.

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    41 mins

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