New Kinship

By: David Frank and TJ Espinoza
  • Summary

  • Welcome to New Kinship, where we are exploring and renewing ideas of belonging, desire, and being a neighbor in the Kingdom of Jesus. Together we are pursuing the communion and shalom of the church and the world. Pull up a chair and join the conversation!

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  • #54 - Side B & Side X in Dialogue: With Jason Thompson from Portland Fellowship
    Nov 20 2024

    Jason Thompson leads Portland Fellowship, a Christian organization pursuing freedom from “homosexuality and transgender confusion” through Christ. In our terms, Jason’s org is “Side X” and we are “Side B”. Jason himself has thought a bit about the various positions in the faith + sexuality debate, and he has his own description of four “sides”. Between these groupings are some seemingly wide gaps in how we, as Christians, think about sexual orientation, restoration, brokenness, and identities… tough stuff, but we are grateful for Jason’s willingness to talk about our differences as Christians.

    About Our Guest: Jason Thompson experienced unwanted same sex desires in his youth, and discovered Portland Fellowship in 1989, where he received discipleship and loving support to find the freedom he was seeking. Jason now serves as executive director of Portland Fellowship; he holds a master's degree in counseling from Western Seminary and is an ordained minister. Jason and his wife Amy live outside of Portland with their two sons.

    Note: This episode uses the terms “Side A” and “Side B” (and X, Y) as shorthand quite a bit. If you’re new to the conversation, you might find it helpful to check out our episode #3, where we talk through the four “sides”: ⁠#3 - A-B-Y-X | 4 Sides on SSA/Gay Sexuality⁠

    Timestamps

    (00:00) #54 - Side B & Side X in Dialogue: With Jason Thompson from Portland Fellowship

    (00:43) About Jason and Portland Fellowship

    (03:29) Clarifying Side B/X and Jason's chart

    (17:24) Defining: male and female in the image of God

    (20:45) Defining: sexual orientation, homosexuality

    (32:50) Defining: "repentance from lust"

    (34:06) Defining: gay and straight

    (43:18) Juxtaposing Side X ("Rebuild") and Side B ("Resist") - change, role of marriage

    (51:58) Change is possible--but what kind of change?

    (01:08:39) We (all of us) don't police language

    (01:11:54) "Should that person still hold a gay label when all that has changed in their life?"

    (01:16:22) Wrapping up: Final thoughts

    ★ Links and References

    * Jason’s 4 Views PDF: “Differing Views on Christian Doctrine, Identity and Homosexuality”

    ★ Send us feedback, questions, comments, and support!

    Email: communionandshalom@gmail.com | Instagram: @newkinship | Substack: @newkinship | Patreon: @newkinship

    ★ Credits

    Creators and Hosts: David Frank, TJ Espinoza | Audio Engineer: Carl Swenson, carlswensonmusic.com | Podcast Manager: Elena F. | Graphic Designer: Gavin Popken, gavinpopkenart.com★



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    1 hr and 26 mins
  • #53 - Conversion Therapy's Legacy with Simon Kent Fung (”Dear Alana”)
    Oct 30 2024

    Content warning: This episode includes discussions of suicidality.

    Simon Kent Fung is the creator and host of Dear Alana, a limited series podcast telling the story of Alana Chen, a devoutly Catholic young woman who wrestled with same-sex attraction alongside her faith before taking her own life in 2019. Simon found that Alana's journey with the Catholic faith and conversion therapies paralleled his own story in notable ways. On this episode, we talked with Simon about his experience of conversion therapy or “reparative therapy” for LGBTQ Christian people, the expectations and harms that accompany it, and what a healthy spiritual journey and community could be.

    Learn more about the podcast Dear Alana at http://dearalana.com.

    Learn more about Simon at http://simonkentfung.com.

    Timestamps

    (00:00) #53 - Conversion Therapy's Legacy, with Simon Kent Fung from "Dear Alana”

    (02:20) The story of Dear Alana

    (13:28) Unpacking conversion/reparative therapy

    (28:24) Therapy: what we expect, what good things we need?

    (43:52) Leaving conversion therapy, identifying harms

    (55:23) Thinking now about "sexual orientation" as a concept

    (01:01:56) Finding a healthier spirituality through community

    (01:11:00) What, to you, is a good sexual ethic these days?

    ★ Send us feedback, questions, comments, and support!

    Email: communionandshalom@gmail.com | Instagram: @newkinship | Substack: @newkinship | Patreon: @newkinship

    ★ Credits

    Creators and Hosts: David Frank, TJ Espinoza | Audio Engineer: Carl Swenson, carlswensonmusic.com | Podcast Manager: Elena F. | Graphic Designer: Gavin Popken, gavinpopkenart.com ★



    This is a public episode. If you would like to discuss this with other subscribers or get access to bonus episodes, visit newkinship.substack.com
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    1 hr and 19 mins
  • BONUS - Why “New Kinship”?
    Oct 23 2024

    Our reasons for changing our name. Including: discussions of kinship, old and new commandments, belonging, mutual solidarity, and more.

    ★ Send us feedback, questions, comments, or support!

    Email: communionandshalom@gmail.com | Instagram: @newkinship | Substack: @newkinship | Patreon: @newkinship

    ★ Credits

    Creators and Hosts: David Frank, TJ Espinoza | Audio Engineer: Carl Swenson, carlswensonmusic.com | Podcast Manager: Elena F. | Graphic Designer: Gavin Popken, gavinpopkenart.com ★



    This is a public episode. If you would like to discuss this with other subscribers or get access to bonus episodes, visit newkinship.substack.com
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    11 mins

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