Nèg Mawon Podcast

By: Patrick Jean-Baptiste
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  • Seeing the world through Haitian 🇭🇹 eyes, one episode at a time.
    Patrick Jean-Baptiste
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Episodes
  • [Scholar Legacy Series Ep. #80] "The First & Last King of Haiti: The Rise & Fall of Henry Christophe." A Continuing Conversation w/ Dr. Marlene Daut
    Feb 2 2025
    Whenever I hear 1804-Haitian-fanatics—those who shout with fevered breath about the glories of the Haitian Revolution, about the unshakable Christophe, the unbreakable Dessalines, the brilliant Louverture—I think about something James Joyce once wrote, something about heroism and the lie that holds it together: “Do you not think the search for heroics damn vulgar? I am sure however that the whole structure of heroism is, and always was, a damned lie and that there cannot be any substitute for individual passion as the motive power of everything.” And maybe he was right. Maybe all the grand statues, all the history book renderings of Haitian men and women who lived and fought and bled—maybe they were always meant to obscure something harder to face: that there are no perfect person, no unblemished saviors, no mythic warriors who moved through the world without doubt, without error, without contradiction. That the stories we Haitians tell ourselves, the way we flatten our historical figures into marbles, the way we sand off their edges, all of it is less about truth and more about our comfort. That’s what struck me reading Dr. Marlene Daut’s “The First and Last King of Haiti.” It isn’t a portrait built for worship. Christophe emerges not as an untouchable legend but as a man—a man who built, a man who ruled, a man who inspired and also a man who made shitloads of mistakes, who punished, who carried the weight of the impossible on his shoulders. There is no neat symmetry to his life here, no easy moral at the end. But there is something real, something tangible. There is a man who shaped history and was, in turn, shaped by it. And this is where I think Joyce and the 1804 purists miss each other. Heroism, as an idea, is flawed because we are all flawed. But Haitian history does not belong to those who refuse to see the fullness of its historical figures. It belongs to those Haitians who can hold contradiction, who can see Christophe not as some distant legend but as a man who, for all his flaws, left something behind that still stands. And maybe that is the only kind of heroism worth anything at all. --------INTRO MUSIV-------------------- Neg Mawon Theme: by Dr. Roch Ntankeh Language: Medumba from West Cameroon African Nation Affiliation: Bamileke Musical Genre: Mangabeu Licensed to: Nèg Media Inc Lyrics Tell me the story/Give me the news/Listen to Neg Mawon Listen to the story of the land/Listen to the history of Haiti/People of St Domingue where are you?People of Haiti where are you?/Come listen to the history/Come listen to the story/Where are the scholars? (x2) Come and tell the history to all the people Chorus : Neg Mawon (x5) Tell me history Tell me the news of the land
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    1 hr and 16 mins
  • [Scholar Legacy Series- Ep. #79- Part 1/3] A Conversation with Dr. Laurent Dubois
    Jan 27 2025

    Today, we're chatting with the brilliant Dr. Laurent Dubois about his early years, his journey into Haitian studies, and everything in between. Drink some kremas with ice while you’re listening!

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    1 hr
  • [Haiti’s Revolutionary Symphony vs. the Kazoo Solo of U.S. Abolitionism - Ep. #78, Part 3/3]. A Conversation w/ Dr. Ashli White
    Jun 16 2024
    ((For installments 1 and 2, see episodes #69 and #70, respectively.) ### Comprehensive Sequence of Topics Covered: 1. **Abolitionism and Emancipation Movements** - Gradual vs. immediate emancipation approaches in the U.S. - Contrast between methods of abolition in U.S. and the example set by Haiti - Historical perception of U.S. slavery as less harsh compared to Caribbean slavery. - Ethical issues in comparing degrees of humanitarian crises in slavery paradigms. 2. **Cultural and Historical Narratives** - Influence and circulation of stories like Itanoko in shaping public perception. - The story of Ome and its implications on public views of slavery. - Migration narratives of 1809 to New Orleans and their impact on U.S. slavery laws. 3. **Legal Implications and Political Responses** - Enslaved refugees' roles and their profitability to white refugees. - The Toussaint clause in relation to U.S. and France diplomatic tensions. - Congressional debates and differing views on trade agreements with Haitian leaders. 4. **Historical Documentation and Literature** - Challenges historians face in documenting and quantifying human suffering. - Use of personal narratives and impactful individual stories in historical analysis. - Role of novelizations like "Secret History" in understanding historical perceptions. 5. **Interactions of Law, Economics, and Slavery** - The implications of the federal ban on transatlantic slave trade and enslaved individuals' fate. - Legal and economic responses to the Haitian revolution. - Dr. White's considerations for her book's revised edition concerning these themes. 6. **Educational Approaches and Media Insight** - Assigning novels to undergraduates to provide perspectives on historical events. - The role of media in portraying the brutality of Caribbean versus American slavery. - The contagion trope and its political and historical resonance. 7. **Personal and Public Interactions with Literature** - Organization of bookshelves and the personal touch in managing literature. - Impact of physical books versus digital readings in personal and academic settings. - Discussion on family dynamics in book organization and marking. 8. **Literary Contributions to Historical Perspectives** - Fictional narrative's influence on societal views and historical records. - Discussions on gender and race intersection through historical novels. - Mythmaking in historical events and its effect on legacy and leadership perceptions. The sequence elaborates on the discussions held in the podcast, exploring the multifaceted approach to understanding the complexities of abolitionism, cultural narratives, and the historical impacts of slavery across different geographies and time periods. --- Support this podcast: https://podcasters.spotify.com/pod/show/negmawonpodcast/support
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    1 hr and 10 mins

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