Mending Fences

By: Patrice Brymner
  • Summary

  • Mending Fences is a podcast about dispute resolution and effective ways to communicate and live across differences. Hosts Patrice Brymner and Jennifer Hawthorne are both family mediators and collaborative law attorneys, but their conversations go well beyond family law. They explore the personal, interpersonal, legal, and cultural impact of conflict. Intro/outro: "North Oakland Extasy," by Squadda B
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Episodes
  • Embracing Change: Conflict as Transformation
    Jan 17 2025

    Conflict is more than just a hurdle—it's an opportunity for transformation. Patrice and Jen explore how to harness the inherent the chaos of change toward personal and relational growth. Discover the power of reframing your focus and understanding what truly makes you feel secure amid instability. From discussing the emotional rollercoaster of conflict to offering strategies for open communication and self-care, Jen and Patrice highlight the value of personal growth and self-discovery. Avoid the pitfalls of seeking validation from those who've wronged you—find peace within yourself and regain your power. By trusting in a process and taking responsibility for your role, you'll discover a stronger negotiating position and a path toward a better resolution. Listen in to find out how embracing change can lead to a renewed sense of empowerment.

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    22 mins
  • GUEST: Attorney William Hickey on Divorce Mediation v. Litigation Myths
    Jun 21 2024

    Join us on Mending Fences as we talk to Attorney William Hickey, a seasoned family law litigator from Massachusetts. Together, we untangle the often-confusing world of divorce, focusing on the distinctions between mediation and litigation. Bill shares his expert insights on how he evaluates the suitability of mediation for his clients, highlighting crucial factors like the intricacy of the issues and the couple's communication dynamics. We also delve into the significance of fairness and client value when recommending dispute resolution methods.

    We break down the essential steps for choosing a qualified mediator, ensuring you’re equipped with the right questions to ask. Learn about the importance of mediators being involved in professional communities and the need to clearly understand the boundaries of the the neutral's role. Because mediators can't give legal advice, having access to independent counsel is vital. Through practical examples, we clarify the mediator’s role and underscore the necessity of grounding mediation in sound legal advice for a more balanced process.

    We also discuss the value of a collaborative role for attorneys in mediation. Whether both clients have legal representation or only one does, we discuss how attorneys can bring balance and informed decision-making to the table. We also touch upon critical moments when mediators should refer clients to litigators, acknowledging that some conflicts are best resolved through litigation. Tune in for an insightful discussion on navigating divorce with the right mix of mediation and litigation, tailored to meet your unique needs.

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    36 mins
  • De-escalation: A First Step to Resolution
    May 23 2024

    What happens when a conflict becomes bigger than any of the involved interests? Jen Hawthorne Kelsey and Patrice Brymner guide you through the maze of contentious standoffs to the calmer side, where interest-based dialogue fosters understanding and peace. As they reflect on the art of conflict de-escalation on Mending Fences, listeners learn effective communication strategies that are more necessary now than ever. Whether it's the bubbling tensions in the classroom or the more prominent scale of global disagreements, self-inquiry strategies can shed light on personal disputes and their striking similarities to international relations.


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    21 mins

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