Making Space Podcast

By: Aspen Group
  • Summary

  • Welcome to the Making Space podcast! This podcast comes out of a decade’s long partnership between Aspen Group and Barna. In this series, hosts Benjamin Windle and Jay Kim will be focusing on the impact that physical spaces have on the way people are formed and shaped as they experience Jesus, how they engage with the church, and interact with others in community. Learn more at https://www.aspengroup.com/makingspacepodcast and get a copy of Making Space for Inspiration here: https://shop.barna.com/products/making-space-for-inspiration-why-church-design-matters-in-ministry

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Episodes
  • Michael Scheer on Liturgical Art & Reflecting God’s Beauty Through Creation
    Jun 12 2024

    On the last episode of this season of Making Space, Jay Kim talks with the Director of the Center for Liturgical Art, Michael Scheer. They discuss the importance of creating connections between churches and artists, the need for art to be authentic and reflective of the beauty of God and the impact of art on the lives of Christians. Michael also highlights the role of art in education and its ability to bridge divides and foster spiritual formation. He encourages church leaders to engage with art and to not be afraid of the challenges and conversations that come with it.


    Learn more at: Barna.com/MakingSpace



    Learn more at https://www.aspengroup.com/makingspacepodcast

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    37 mins
  • Amanda Iglesias on Church Architecture & the Value of the Design Process
    Jun 5 2024

    On this episode of Making Space, Sara Joy Proppe joins architect and curator of, “The Architecture of Prayer,” Amanda Iglesia. They discuss the intersection of theology, architecture, and worship. Amanda highlights the importance of collaboration between architects and church communities, and how the design of sacred spaces can lead individuals into prayer.


    Amanda’s Exhibit: https://www.iglesias-project.com/

    Learn more at: Barna.com/MakingSpace



    Learn more at https://www.aspengroup.com/makingspacepodcast

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    37 mins
  • Drew Hyun on Church Planting & Ministry Innovations in New York City
    May 29 2024

    On this episode of Making Space, Jay Kim talks with Founder and pastor of Hope Church, Co-Founder of New City Network, and an Emotionally Healthy Discipleship team member, Drew Hyun. Drew shares about the different approach they’ve taken to growth based on the limits of their space, the broader vision their church holds for reaching their city and the missional posture they’ve taken to care for their neighbors.


    Learn more at:
    Barna.com/MakingSpace

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    36 mins

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