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Is disability a tragedy? Are disabled people “inspiring”? The language we use often reveals our assumptions about disability. Carrie Hahn, a pediatric speech-language pathologist and mother, joins me on the podcast to talk about her book Beyond Inclusion: How to Raise Anti-Ableist Kids.

Maybe you feel like our culture is too full of language police and that we should just move on to more important things. Or maybe you worry that you'll never get your words right. Whether you feel cynicism or despair, this conversation is for you.

Carrie's stories and suggestions offer ALL of us a way to put a reimagined life into practice. We discuss:

• The complexities of navigating ableism
  
  
• How to cultivate inclusion and belonging one word at a time
  
  
• Ways to respond when we get the language wrong
  
  
• Why recognizing individuality matters
  
  
• Simple tips to make spaces more welcoming and accessible

REIMAGINING FAMILY LIFE WITH DISABILITY WORKSHOP
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ON THE PODCAST:

• Beyond Inclusion: How to Raise Anti-Ableist Kids by Carrie Hahn
• Stella Young
• A Disability History of the United States by Kim E. Nielsen
• REIMAGINING FAMILY LIFE WITH DISABILITY WORKSHOP

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CONNECT with Carrie Hahn on her website (informdisability.com), Facebook (@informspeechandlanguage), and Instagram (@carriecch80)
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WATCH this conversation on YouTube by clicking here. Read the full transcript and access detailed show notes by clicking here or visiting amyjuliabecker.com/podcast.
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ABOUT:

Carrie Hahn is a pediatric speech-language pathologist and mother. She has served children of a variety of ages in a variety of settings and has taken on additional endeavors of interest, such as an autism support group for caregivers, the distribution of a parent education newsletter, and giving talks at conferences for family advocacy groups. She creates and shares content related to disability and neurodivergence on her website and social media and uses her platform to promote education and advocacy. Hahn is the mother of two neurodivergent children, one of whom also has physical disabilities. Her book ‘Beyond Inclusion: Raising Anti-Ableist Kids” came out in July of 2024. Carrie’s professional and personal lives have intensified her passion for making a safer and less ableist world.
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"Just try harder. Work harder. Think harder." But what if the key to creativity, whether that’s in our art or in the art of our daily lives, isn’t more effort but surrender? Carey Wallace, artist and author of The Discipline of Inspiration, joins Amy Julia Becker to talk about:

• How discipline and spiritual practices nurture inspiration
  
  
• The role of surrender in the creative process
  
  
• How all humans can explore their creative potential and embrace the joy of creation
  
  
• Art as a communal experience
  
  
• How the discipline of inspiration empowers meaningful change in our world that is good and mutually beneficial

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REIMAGINING FAMILY LIFE WITH DISABILITY WORKSHOP
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ON THE PODCAST:

The Discipline of Inspiration by Carey Wallace

Image Seminar: The Discipline of Inspiration (a five-week craft workshop)

Slow Productivity by Cal Newport

Jon Batiste interview on Fresh Air

Once a Queen: A Novel by Sarah Arthur

Once a Castle by Sarah Arthur

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CONNECT with Carey Wallace on her website (disciplineofinspiration.org), Instagram (@disciplineofinspiration), or Facebook (@disciplineofinspiration).

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WATCH this conversation on YouTube by clicking here. Read the full transcript and access detailed show notes by clicking here or visiting amyjuliabecker.com/podcast.

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ABOUT THE GUEST:

Carey Wallace is the author of The Discipline of Inspiration (Eerdmans), The Blind Contessa’s New Machine (Penguin), and The Ghost In The Glass House (Clarion). She works to help people from all walks of life find inspiration and build strong creative habits to sustain a lifetime of creation. She performs as a songwriter, exhibits her own fine art, and has spoken on art, faith, and justice with students at Princeton, Julliard, Emory, Pratt, and Yale. Her articles and poems have appeared in Time, Detroit’s Metro Times, and America. She is the founder of a retreat for artists in Michigan, and the Discipline of Inspiration creative habit formation program, which has been in operation for over a decade across the US and internationally. She grew up in small towns in Michigan, and lives and works in Brooklyn.
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How do we attend to diverse voices in our churches and society without silencing or patronizing each other? Author and professor Esau McCaulley, PhD, joins Amy Julia Becker to discuss The New Testament in Color: A Multiethnic Bible Commentary. They talk about:

• the importance of connecting church and culture
  
  
• the insights provided by scholars from diverse backgrounds and ethnicities
  
  
• the harm caused by limiting biblical interpretation to a Western-centric lens
  
  
• the role of the church in today's society
  
  
• the transformative power of listening and learning from each other

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ON THE PODCAST:

NYT essays by Esau McCaulley

The Esau McCaulley Podcast

Reading While Black: book; podcast episode

How Far to the Promised Land: book; podcast episode
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CONNECT with Dr. McCaulley on his website (esaumccaulley.com) and on social media (@esaumccaulley)
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Watch this conversation on YouTube by clicking here. Read the full transcript and access detailed show notes by clicking here or visiting amyjuliabecker.com/podcast.
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ABOUT:

Esau McCaulley, PhD, is an author and The Jonathan Blanchard Associate Professor of New Testament and Public Theology at Wheaton College. His writing and speaking focus on New Testament Exegesis, African American Biblical Interpretation, and Public Theology. He has authored numerous books including, Reading While Black: African American Biblical Interpretation as an Exercise in Hope, which won numerous awards including Christianity Today’s Book of the Year. Esau also served as the editor of New Testament in Color: A Multi-Ethnic Commentary on the New Testament.

On the popular level, Esau’s recent memoir, How Far to the Promised Land, was named by Amazon as a top five non-fiction book of 2023. He has also penned works for children, including Josey Johnson’s Hair and the Holy Spirit and Andy Johnson and the March for Justice. Esau is a contributing opinion writer for the New York Times, and senior editor for Holy Post Media as well as the host of a new podcast with the Holy Post. His writings have appeared in places such as The Atlantic, Washington Post, and Christianity Today.
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