Breakups can be brutal, but is there a way to do them well? In this episode of Untidy, Matty and Hannah chat with award-winning journalist and author Sarah Catherall to discuss both the realities and opportunities of separation, co-parenting, and moving forward to survive and thrive.

Sarah has spent over 30 years writing for publications such as New Zealand Listener, The Spinoff, The Post, Stuff, and international media including Vanity Fair and the BBC. She is the author of ‘How to Break Up Well: Surviving and Thriving After Separation’, a candid and insightful guide that combines expert advice with her personal journey through breaking up and beginning again.

Sarah opens up about the emotional rollercoaster of her marriage ending, co-parenting challenges, dating again, and reclaiming her sense of self after separation. She shares wisdom from relationship psychologists, divorce coaches, and her own experiences, making this a must-listen, and an essential handbook, for anyone considering, navigating, and recovering from a breakup, or, supporting someone going through it.

Link mentioned in the show:

• Get the book: How to Break Up Well by Sarah Catherall
• Sarah's Website: sarahcatherall.co.nz
• Follow Sarah on Instagram @scatherall
• Related podcast episode: ‘Navigating the wild world of modern dating with Hannah Davison’ on The O-Studio Podcast
• Related podcast episode: ‘Separation & Co-Parenting — The honest messiness with Hannah Davison’ on The O-Studio Podcast

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