What does training for spending weeks deep underground teach you about the rest of life?

Katie Graham is a passionate cave and canyon explorer who discovered Canada’s deepest and second deepest caves. This feat was showcased in the 2023 documentary film “Subterranean.”

Katie is a fellow of the Royal Canadian Geographic Society and president of the Alberta Speleological Society. As a former accountant, she left her corporate gig to spend more time underground.

We talk about:

• Is it caving, or spelunking?
• The pressure of working deep underground, especially with a film crew
• Breaking her leg days deep in the cave and self-evacuating for 3 days
• Hauling tons of heavy gear for weeks just to spend minutes in a cave section
• The mundane monotony of training for expeditions
• Finding balance between celebrating milestones and the training grind
• The mental game of cave diving
• Burning out with a passion and how to add fun back into it
• The scary days that kick your ass are the ones that matter most
• Why Katie started professional accounting and why she later quit
• The nuance of her team being kicked out of a village on a caving trip to Mexico
• The effects of living underground for weeks and manipulating your own circadian rhythm
• Making cool cave suits!

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Connect with Katie:

• Subterranean Film
• Katie on Instagram

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