This man has played many a serial killer on TV, but he's way more down to earth than his characters may appear.

Ryan Devlin is an entrepreneur, rock climber, rad dad, and actor best known for his roles on shows like Veronica Mars and Grey's Anatomy. In his words, he’s “just trying to fit it all in.”

He's also the host of The Struggle Climbing Show, one of the most popular rock climbing podcasts, where he explores the intersections of climbing and personal growth.

We talk about:

• Why Ryan is fascinated with “the struggle” and how it shapes his popular podcast
• When Ryan knows it’s time to shake it up and make a pivot in life
• Countering failure by embracing a beginner’s mindset
• The arrival fallacy that so many humans face
• Mental vs. physical challenges of outdoor adventures (running 100 miles or sending a 5.15)
• The difference between being an actor and a celebrity
• Moving from Hollywood to Kentucky and opening a forest school
• Acting is listening (even if Ryan tends to play creepy murderers on TV)
• Ryan’s tools for keeping all the plates spinning in a packed life
• The One Line a Day Journal Ryan got Angie and Jeni hooked on

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Connect with Ryan:

• https://instagram.com/thestruggleclimbingshow
• https://www.instagram.com/ryandevlinoutside
• https://www.youtube.com/@thestruggleclimbingshow
• https://www.thestruggleclimbingshow.com

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-Thank you to The Ruins, the best wedding venue in Oregon, for supporting the show.

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