Hey White Women

By: Daniella Mestyanek Young
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  • In this insightful and candid conversation, Daniella Mestyanek Young, a scholar of cults, extreme groups, and extremely leadership, joins Rebecca, known as White Woman Whisperer on TikTok and Patreon, to delve into their experiences and revelations about cult dynamics, white supremacy, and systemic racism. Daniella, who grew up in the notorious Children of God cult and later served in the military, shares her journey of understanding and deconstructing white supremacy as a pervasive cult. Rebecca, a Black Jewish woman, discusses her own realizations about systemic racism and the similarities between white supremacy and cult behavior. Together, they explore the complexities of deprogramming from these ingrained systems, the importance of acknowledging privilege, and the power of vulnerability in fostering genuine understanding and change. This dialogue sheds light on the personal and societal challenges of breaking free from cult-like ideologies and the ongoing work required to dismantle oppressive systems.
    2024
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Philosophy Social Sciences
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  • Episode 23 | Hillmantok University

    Episode 23 | Hillmantok University
    Jan 31 2025
    This conversation delves into the complexities of therapy, race, and community dynamics, particularly focusing on the experiences of individuals navigating these spaces. The speakers discuss the challenges of finding appropriate therapeutic support, the importance of community in healing, and the role of white women in social movements. They also explore military dynamics, the impact of social media on awareness, and the necessity of acknowledging trauma while navigating conversations about race and identity. In this conversation, Daniella and Rebecca explore the complexities of race, gender, and community dynamics. They discuss the importance of understanding individual experiences within groups, the role of struggle in building bonds, and the responsibilities of leadership. The conversation emphasizes the need for white individuals to listen to and learn from black voices, acknowledging the impact of whiteness on perceptions and interactions. They also touch on the significance of embracing growth and change, and the power of community in fostering connection and understanding. Connect with Rebecca at: The White Woman Whisperer Website The White Woman Whisperer Patreon The White Woman Whisperer TikTok Connect with Daniella at: You can read all about that story in my book, Uncultured-- buy signed copies here. https://bit.ly/SignedUncultured For more info on me: Patreon: https://bit.ly/YTPLanding Cult book Clubs (Advanced AND Memoirs) Annual Membership: https://bit.ly/YTPLanding Get an autographed copy of my book, Uncultured: https://bit.ly/SignedUncultured Get my book, Uncultured, from Bookshop.org: https://bit.ly/4g1Ufw8 Daniella’s Tiktok: https://bit.ly/3V6GK6k / KnittingCultLady Instagram: https://bit.ly/4ePAOFK / daniellamyoung_ Unamerican video book (on Patreon): https://bit.ly/YTVideoBook Secret Practice video book (on Patreon): https://bit.ly/3ZswGY8 Takeaways Therapy is not a one-size-fits-all solution, especially for marginalized communities.Community support is crucial for healing from trauma.The power dynamics of white women in social movements can be both beneficial and problematic.Understanding military dynamics requires recognizing the humanity of service members.Individual experiences shape our understanding of broader societal issues.Social media can amplify awareness but also complicate conversations about race.Cultural sensitivity is essential in discussions about identity and race.Exhaustion can hinder activism and personal growth.Curating confusion is a tactic used to maintain control over narratives.Acknowledging trauma is necessary for genuine healing and progress.Conversations about race and gender require careful navigation.Women are often seen as equal in intelligence but face systemic challenges.Struggling can lead to stronger bonds within communities.Good leadership prioritizes the well-being of team members.Whiteness can distort perceptions and interactions in communities.Listening to black women is crucial for understanding and growth.Community dynamics differ from group dynamics; the former is more inclusive.Embracing individuality within groups fosters a healthier environment.Growth often comes with discomfort and learning from mistakes.Connection and community are vital for personal and collective healing. Chapters 00:00 Navigating Therapy and Racial Dynamics 04:11 The Role of Community in Healing 07:11 Understanding Power Dynamics in Therapy 10:10 The Influence of White Women in Social Movements 13:08 Humanizing Military Narratives 16:11 The Importance of Community Conversations 19:09 The Impact of Social Media on Education 22:02 Personal Growth and Community Responsibility 28:45 Understanding Whiteness and Community Dynamics 31:18 The Complexity of Identity and Race 35:14 Curated Confusion and the Impact of Exhaustion 39:08 Navigating Trauma and Panic in Society 41:59 The Role of Whiteness in Social Interactions 46:17 Community vs. Group: A Deeper Exploration 50:16 Leadership and Team Dynamics in High-Stakes Environments 58:40 The Essence of Leadership 01:01:11 Respect and Responsibility in Leadership 01:03:04 Cults, Community, and the Military 01:06:12 The Role of Fear and Projection in Society 01:09:05 Navigating Conversations on Race and Privilege 01:13:10 The Complexity of Identity and Storytelling 01:16:12 The Power of Community and Individuality Produced by Haley Phillips
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    1 hr and 24 mins
  • Episode 22 | Treat Yourself

    Episode 22 | Treat Yourself
    Jan 23 2025
    This conversation explores the themes of adulthood, personal choices, loyalty, community, and the complexities of societal structures. The speakers discuss the importance of treating oneself, the challenges of loyalty in organizations, the individuality within the military, and the role of nonprofits in addressing societal issues. They also delve into the impact of capitalism on community, the pursuit of growth in business, and the power dynamics involving women. The conversation emphasizes the need for community engagement and the dangers of oversimplifying complex issues. In this conversation, Rebecca and Daniella explore various themes surrounding identity, credibility, cultural awareness, and the complexities of navigating societal expectations. They discuss their experiences with internet engagement, the challenges of establishing credibility in their fields, and the intersections of military and cult experiences. The conversation also delves into cultural perceptions of beauty, particularly in relation to hair, and the evolution of parenting styles. They reflect on the ethics of punishment, the fear of losing privilege, and the importance of breaking down systemic barriers to create meaningful change. Connect with Rebecca at: The White Woman Whisperer Website The White Woman Whisperer Patreon The White Woman Whisperer TikTok Connect with Daniella at: You can read all about that story in my book, Uncultured-- buy signed copies here. https://bit.ly/SignedUncultured For more info on me: Patreon: https://bit.ly/YTPLanding Cult book Clubs (Advanced AND Memoirs) Annual Membership: https://bit.ly/YTPLanding Get an autographed copy of my book, Uncultured: https://bit.ly/SignedUncultured Get my book, Uncultured, from Bookshop.org: https://bit.ly/4g1Ufw8 Daniella’s Tiktok: https://bit.ly/3V6GK6k / KnittingCultLady Instagram: https://bit.ly/4ePAOFK / daniellamyoung_ Unamerican video book (on Patreon): https://bit.ly/YTVideoBook Secret Practice video book (on Patreon): https://bit.ly/3ZswGY8 Takeaways Treating oneself is an important aspect of adulthood.Loyalty can lead to moral compromises in organizations.The military consists of individuals with their own lives and values.Community support is crucial for addressing addiction.Convenience often comes at the cost of community.The pursuit of growth in business can be detrimental.Nonprofits can perpetuate problems rather than solve them.Women can hold powerful positions but may also perpetuate harmful systems.Definitions of cults and organizations can be manipulated.Community engagement is essential for meaningful change. Engaging with internet strangers requires self-awareness and strategy.Credibility is often questioned based on societal biases.Military experiences can provide unique insights into cult dynamics.Cultural awareness plays a significant role in understanding beauty standards.Navigating identity involves recognizing the complexities of family dynamics.Parenting is evolving towards mutual respect and understanding.The ethics of punishment raise questions about societal values.Historical injustices must be acknowledged to foster growth.Fear of losing privilege can hinder open discussions about race.Breaking down systems is essential for creating lasting change. Chapters 00:00 The Joy of Adult Treats 06:18 Cultural Narratives and Identity 12:11 The Individual vs. the Organization 18:25 The Complexity of Problems and Solutions 24:09 The Value of Slower Living 29:45 The Cult of Entrepreneurship 36:01 The Dangers of Personal Transformation Spaces 41:19 The Challenge of Defining Cults 49:06 The Value of Personal Experience 58:15 Understanding Compliments Across Cultures 01:04:30 Parenting and the Evolution of Relationships 01:12:27 Confronting Historical Racism and Personal Accountability 01:18:37 The Shifting Power Dynamics in Society 01:24:37 Resisting Capitalism and Embracing Change Produced by Haley Phillips
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    1 hr and 26 mins
  • Episode 21 | Cult Baby Musical Concept

    Episode 21 | Cult Baby Musical Concept
    Jan 16 2025
    In this conversation, Rebecca and Daniella explore the intersection of creativity, personal identity, and societal structures. They discuss the emotional connections formed through creative projects, the development of Daniella's musical 'Uncultured', and the themes of gender and power dynamics within it. The conversation also delves into the importance of representation in casting, the influence of cultural music, and the complexities of societal hierarchies. They reflect on personal journeys of identity and community, the value placed on certain roles in society, and the challenges of finding solutions to systemic issues. In this conversation, Daniella and Rebecca explore the themes of comfort, trauma, empowerment, and the role of community in addressing societal issues. They discuss the impact of trauma on perception, the importance of empowerment and community action, and the complexities of the military's role in society. The conversation also delves into the dilemmas of lying, cultural coercion, and the journey of anti-racism, emphasizing the need for listening and understanding in these discussions. Connect with Rebecca at: The White Woman Whisperer Website The White Woman Whisperer Patreon The White Woman Whisperer TikTok Connect with Daniella at: You can read all about that story in my book, Uncultured-- buy signed copies here. https://bit.ly/SignedUncultured For more info on me: Patreon: https://bit.ly/YTPLanding Cult book Clubs (Advanced AND Memoirs) Annual Membership: https://bit.ly/YTPLanding Get an autographed copy of my book, Uncultured: https://bit.ly/SignedUncultured Get my book, Uncultured, from Bookshop.org: https://bit.ly/4g1Ufw8 Daniella’s Tiktok: https://bit.ly/3V6GK6k / KnittingCultLady Instagram: https://bit.ly/4ePAOFK / daniellamyoung_ Unamerican video book (on Patreon): https://bit.ly/YTVideoBook Secret Practice video book (on Patreon): https://bit.ly/3ZswGY8 Takeaways Creative projects can evoke strong emotional connections.Writing can be a form of procrastination for other tasks.Musicals can address complex themes like gender and power.Casting should reflect diversity and inclusivity.Cultural influences shape artistic expression.Hierarchical structures impact personal and societal dynamics.Community support is vital for personal growth and healing.The Olympics symbolize societal values and priorities.Solutions to societal issues are often complex and individualized.Art can be a powerful medium for social commentary. If AA lost the stranglehold on the conversation, we could find solutions.The thought-terminating cliché prevents personal examination.'Could have been worse' is a form of attitude control.We don't have to replicate harmful systems.Using privilege for good can empower communities.Lying is not beneficial for mental health.Cultural coercion affects how we interact with each other.Humanizing the military is essential for understanding its role.The journey of anti-racism requires listening to marginalized voices.Community action can lead to significant change. Chapters 00:00 Creative Projects and Emotional Value 03:45 The Birth of a Musical: Uncultured 06:44 Exploring Themes of Gender and Power 10:03 Casting and Representation in Theatre 12:54 Cultural Influences and Music 15:38 Hierarchy and Control in Society 18:49 Reflections on Value and Morality 22:37 The Olympics and Military Funding 25:09 Dehumanization and Labor 28:04 Hair Color and White Supremacy 31:39 The Journey of Awareness 36:09 Seeking Solutions vs. Accepting Answers 39:51 Comfort with Chaos 44:15 Community and Individual Action 52:38 The White Women Patrol: A New Approach to Community Safety 55:08 Military Hierarchies and Personal Accountability 57:23 The Dangers of Weaponized Lying 01:01:54 Cultural Coercion and the Burden of Truth 01:08:43 The Role of White Women in Social Change 01:12:08 Navigating Anti-Racism and Internalized White Supremacy Produced by Haley Phillips
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    1 hr and 20 mins

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