Episodes

  • 16. RIP Brownie Wise, You Would Have Loved MLMs
    Jan 4 2025

    Does anyone else pronounce Tupperware as “Tubberware?” No? Just me? Well, in this episode Julia and Nicole travel back to the post-war 50s to learn about the one woman who’s responsible for your plastic leftover containers piled high in your kitchen cabinet. Along the way we’ll learn how to throw a Tupperware party, experience some real Sales Department shenanigans, and watch the rise and fall of the first MLM Queen — Brownie Wise.

    Our theme song is “Red Onions” by Louie Zong, off of his album Vegetable Soul: https://louiezong.bandcamp.com/album/vegetable-soul

    We’re on Instagram @girlslunchpod. Nicole's website is nicolehylton.com. Have an episode suggestion or question? You can email us at girlslunchpodcast@gmail.com and we will add it to our chaotic list of future episode subjects.

    Links to sources:

    • Kealing, Bob. Life of the Party. Crown Archetype, 12 July 2016.

    • Clarke, Alison J. Tupperware: The Promise of Plastic in 1950s America. Washington, DC, Smithsonian Inst. Press, 2001.

    • The Brownie Wise Papers, Archive Center, National Museum of American History

    • “The History of EPCOT’s Defunct Kitchen Kabaret,” by Storybook Amusement

    • “The Defunct History of Food Rocks at EPCOT,” by Storybook Amusement
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    1 hr and 19 mins
  • 15. Midway Mania: The Carnival and Carnival Food
    Nov 13 2024

    Step right up, step right up! Feast your ears on a true spectacle of food and amusement history! In this episode, stroll through the fairgrounds with Nicole and Julia to learn about the history of the carnival, snack on some traditional carnival foods, and discuss 20th century American dating norms. Strap on your ill-fitting, definitely-not-up-to-code safety belt and get ready for a bumpy, possibly bruise-inducing ride!

    Our theme song is “Red Onions” by Louie Zong, off of his album Vegetable Soul: https://louiezong.bandcamp.com/album/vegetable-soul

    We’re on Twitter at @girlslunch and on Instagram @girlslunchpod. Nicole is on Twitter @nicoleh262 and her website is nicolehylton.com. Julia is smarter than all of us and not on social media. Have an episode suggestion or question? You can email us at girlslunchpodcast@gmail.com and we will add it to our chaotic list of future episode subjects.

    Links to sources:

    • Inside the Live Reptile Tent: The Twilight World of Carnival Midway, by Jeff Brouws and Bruce Caron
    • “Circuses, Carnivals, and Fairs in America,” by Marcello Truzzi et al, Journal of Popular Culture 6(3), 1972
    • “A Roundabout History of the Ferris Wheel,” by Defunctland

    • “The Sticky-Sweet Story of Cotton Candy,” by Rebecca Rupp for National Geographic

    • “Know Your Sweets: Funnel Cake,” by Sarah Baird for Serious Eats

    • “Funnel Cake” entry in The Oxford Encyclopedia of Food and Drink in America, ed. Andrew F. Smith

    • “Chicken Charlie, The Deep Fry King,” by Elina Shatkin for the Los Angeles Times

    • “The History of Deep Frying Food at Fairs,” by Rebecca Strassberg for Thrillist

    • Cheap Amusements: Working Women and Leisure in Turn of the Century New York by Kathy Peiss

    • How Products are Made Volume 3, Krapp & Longe, editors[Gale:Detroit] 1994 (pages 276-277).

    • Oxford Companion to Food, Alan Davidson [Oxford University Press:Oxford] 1999 (p. 481)

    • “Why is it a thing? Sweet potato, marshmallows,” by Lindsay Deutsch for USA TODAY Network

    • “Why Do We Serve Marshmallows on Sweet Potatoes?,” by Michele Debczak for Mental Floss

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    1 hr and 16 mins
  • 14. Big Ag and Brown Bags: School Lunches, Part 2
    Oct 7 2024

    Julia and Nicole (and David) return for the thrilling conclusion of the history of school lunches! We’ll wade through the Cold War, and then in the 60s, things really pop off for the school lunch program, feminists, and the Black civil rights movement. Like, seriously. Shit gets wild. So grab your Uncrustables and carton of milk and get ready to learn. Class is in session!

    Our theme song is “Red Onions” by Louie Zong, off of his album Vegetable Soul: https://louiezong.bandcamp.com/album/vegetable-soul

    We’re on Twitter at @girlslunch and on Instagram @girlslunchpod. Nicole is on Twitter @nicoleh262 and her website is nicolehylton.com. Julia is smarter than all of us and not on social media. Have an episode suggestion or question? You can email us at girlslunchpodcast@gmail.com and we will add it to our chaotic list of future episode subjects.

    Links to sources:

    • Levine, Susan. School Lunch Politics: The surprising history of America's Favorite Welfare Program. Princeton University Press, New Jersey, 2008.

    • Weaver-Hightower, M. B. Unpacking School Lunch: Understanding the Hidden Politics of School Food. Springer Nature Switzerland, Cham, 2022.

    • Gaddis, J. E. (2019). The labor of lunch. https://doi.org/10.2307/j.ctvr00xpk

    • https://www.usda.gov/

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    1 hr and 4 mins
  • 13. Big Ag and Brown Bags: School Lunches, Part 1
    Sep 9 2024

    Do you recall the halcyon days of your youth? The days spent in school, anxiously awaiting the bell, going to find your friends in the lunchroom, the same table every time? Surely you also remember the tasty lunches served to you in that room. Scrumptious salads with fresh vegetables, lovingly crafted sandwiches, bowls of gooey mac and cheese. No? Not sounding familiar? Your school lunch sucked?! Wow, pizza was a vegetable?! Gritty chicken nuggets! No, that can’t be right. All school lunches are delicious and nutritious! Unless… On this episode, we discuss the lengthy and opinionated history of school lunches, in all their infamy, with special guest David Cogswell (that’s me).

    Our theme song is “Red Onions” by Louie Zong, off of his album Vegetable Soul: https://louiezong.bandcamp.com/album/vegetable-soul

    We’re on Twitter at @girlslunch and on Instagram @girlslunchpod. Nicole is on Twitter @nicoleh262 and her website is nicolehylton.com. Julia is smarter than all of us and not on social media. Have an episode suggestion or question? You can email us at girlslunchpodcast@gmail.com and we will add it to our chaotic list of future episode subjects.

    Links to sources:

    • “Eggo: The Waffle that Revolutionized the Frozen Food Industry,” by Mark Haney

    • Levine, Susan. School Lunch Politics: The surprising history of America's Favorite Welfare Program. Princeton University Press, New Jersey, 2008.

    • Weaver-Hightower, M. B. Unpacking School Lunch: Understanding the Hidden Politics of School Food. Springer Nature Switzerland, Cham, 2022.

    • Gaddis, J. E. (2019). The labor of lunch. https://doi.org/10.2307/j.ctvr00xpk

    • https://www.usda.gov/

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    57 mins
  • 12. How the Burger Hamburglared Its Way Into America’s Heart
    Aug 10 2024

    Alternate theme song: “Ai Like Hamburger” by The Idolm@ster

    Ah, the hamburger. Whether you call it a Steamed Ham, a Royale with Cheese, or a Quarter Pounder, this beefy spheroid is one of America’s proudest exports. But did you know that a little more than a hundred years ago, the hamburger was regarded with intense suspicion, suggested to “fortify even Satan himself”? Join Nicole and Julia as they take a peek inside the bun to figure out just what it is that makes the hamburger so quintessentially American, and how meat-eating reinforces our notions of masculine identity. We also try to parse the insane "Hardee’s Girls" ads of the mid-2000s/2010s (you know the ones).

    Our theme song is “Red Onions” by Louie Zong, off of his album Vegetable Soul: https://louiezong.bandcamp.com/album/vegetable-soul

    We’re on Twitter at @girlslunch and on Instagram @girlslunchpod. Nicole is on Twitter @nicoleh262 and her website is nicolehylton.com. Julia is smarter than all of us and not on social media. Have an episode suggestion or question? You can email us at girlslunchpodcast@gmail.com and we will add it to our chaotic list of future episode subjects.

    Links to sources:

    • The Hamburger: A History, by Josh Ozersky

    • The Sexual Politics of Meat: A Feminist-Vegetarian Critical Theory (25th Anniversary Edition), by Carol J. Adams

    • Burger, by Carol J. Adams

    • Drive-Thru Dreams: A Journey Through the Heart of America’s Fast-Food Kingdom, by Adam Chandler

    • “Who invented the hamburger? Biting into the messy history of America’s iconic sandwich,” by Erik Ofgang, The Washington Post

    • “Hamburger” entry in Encyclopedia Britannica

    • Unwrapped, Season 1 Episode 4, “Hamburgers Unwrapped”

    • “What Is Baby Corn? Children of the Corn: Baby Corn, Demystified” by Niki Achitoff-Gray

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    1 hr and 14 mins
  • 11. Queens of the Supermarket
    Jul 10 2024

    Alternate theme song: “Queen of the Supermarket” by Bruce Springsteen

    A dream awaits for you in aisle two of this product-packed episode! Join Nicole and Julia as they grocery shop through the ages, from bartering at markets in the early 1800s to grocery delivery services in the age of Covid. Marvel at mind-blowing innovations, such as the grocery cart, chain stores, and - gasp - the Piggly Wiggly man! So grab your reusable Trader Joe’s tote and come with us down to the local supermarket for a fun, food-filled adventure.

    Our theme song is “Red Onions” by Louie Zong, off of his album Vegetable Soul: https://louiezong.bandcamp.com/album/vegetable-soul

    We’re on Twitter at @girlslunch and on Instagram @girlslunchpod. Nicole is on Twitter @nicoleh262 and her website is nicolehylton.com. Julia is smarter than all of us and not on social media. Have an episode suggestion or question? You can email us at girlslunchpodcast@gmail.com and we will add it to our chaotic list of future episode subjects.

    Links to Sources:

    • Ruhlman, M. (2017). Grocery: The Buying and Selling of Food in America. Abrams.
    • Deutsch, T. (2010). Building a housewife’s paradise: Gender, Politics, and American Grocery Stores in the Twentieth Century. Univ of North Carolina Press.
    • Counter. (2020, January 14). The wild story of how America almost banned chain grocery stores. The Counter.

    • Tyrväinen, O., & Karjaluoto, H. (2022). Online grocery shopping before and during the COVID-19 pandemic: A meta-analytical review. Telematics and Informatics, 71, 101839.

    • Mothers’ diets have biggest influence on children eating healthy, MSU Today

    • “These Mail-Order Diners Helped Define Roadside Eating. Now They're Disappearing,” by Kyler Alvord

    • List of Valentine Diners by Location (outside of Kansas), Kansas Historical Society
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    1 hr and 13 mins
  • 10. The American Girl Cookbook Special
    Jun 8 2024

    Is a corn oyster REALLY an oyster? In their most self-indulgent and least food-related episode yet, Nicole and Julia take you inside the world of the popular historical doll series American Girl, and their much less popular series of cookbooks. In addition to learning about dolls and some specific American Girl characters, you’ll also learn what it was like to cook and dine on the Minnesota frontier in the 1850s and richy-rich upstate New York in the early 1900s. And, finally, maybe, you will learn what the heck fruit soup is. (We still don’t know either.)

    Our theme song is “Red Onions” by Louie Zong, off of his album Vegetable Soul: https://louiezong.bandcamp.com/album/vegetable-soul

    We’re on Twitter at @girlslunch and on Instagram @girlslunchpod. Nicole is on Twitter @nicoleh262 and her website is nicolehylton.com. Julia is smarter than all of us and not on social media. Have an episode suggestion or question? You can email us at girlslunchpodcast@gmail.com and we will add it to our chaotic list of future episode subjects.

    Links to Sources:

    • “Trying Meals from the American Girl Cookbooks,” Darling Dollz

    • Samantha’s Cook Book: A Peek at Dining in the Past with Meals You Can Cook Today, ed. by Jodi Evert and Jeanne Thieme

    • Kirsten’s Cook Book: A Peek at Dining in the Past with Meals You Can Cook Today, ed. by Jodi Evert and Jeanne Thieme

    • “What Pioneers ate on the Oregon Trail,” Tasting History with Max Miller

    • What Pioneers Ate, Notes From The Frontier. Dec 4, 2019

    • Savory Suppers and Fashionable Feasts: Dining in Victorian America, by Susan Williams

    • “Victorian Dinner Parties,” Shmanners Podcast

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    1 hr and 7 mins
  • 09. From Stove to Screen: TV Cooking Shows
    May 5 2024

    We’ve had cooking shows as long as we’ve had TV (and even before that, if you count radio!) But have you ever asked yourself, “Self, why do I like watching someone ELSE roast a chicken and say “BAM”?” Well, as it often turns out on this show, many people have many hot opinions on that. Join Nicole and Julia on this channel chase from radio to public TV to cable TV to YouTube and beyond as they learn about the history and some early pioneers of cooking shows.

    Our theme song is “Red Onions” by Louie Zong, off of his album Vegetable Soul: https://louiezong.bandcamp.com/album/vegetable-soul

    We’re on Twitter at @girlslunch and on Instagram @girlslunchpod. Nicole is on Twitter @nicoleh262 and her website is nicolehylton.com. Julia is smarter than all of us and not on social media. Have an episode suggestion or question? You can email us at girlslunchpodcast@gmail.com and we will add it to our chaotic list of future episode subjects.

    Links to Sources (including video clips featured in the episode):

    • The Bloomsbury Handbook of Food and Popular Culture, edited by Kathleen Lebesco, and Peter Naccarato.
    • "TV Dinners: Culinary Television, Education, and Distinction,” by Isabelle de Solier

    • Television Cooking Shows: Defining the Genre, by Lori F. Brost (dissertation)

    • Watching What We Eat: The Evolution of Television Cooking Shows, by Kathleen Collins
    • As Easy as Pie: Housework, Temporality, and Postfeminist Popular Culture, by Elizabeth Nathanson (dissertation)

    • “The Essence of Cooking Shows: How the Food Network Constructs Consumer Fantasies,” by Cheri Ketchum

    • The Taco Liberty Bell

    • Videos we watched:

        • Julia Child Flipping a Potato: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k6s6rVAkFrE&pp=ygUbanVsaWEgY2hpbGQncyBmdW5ueSBtb21lbnRz

        • Joyce Chen: https://openvault.wgbh.org/catalog/V_7E8DABA5A896477C9E230E4A4EC9F681

        • The Galloping Gourmet: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xqxw-_lCNk0&t=287s&ab_channel=LemonCooking

        • Emeril Live: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tbn_kwMRCJM&ab_channel=ShaqC

        • Emeril and Julia Child make burgers: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0V9ELWibils&pp=ygUWZW1lcmlsIGFuZCBqdWxpYSBjaGlsZA%3D%3D

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    1 hr and 15 mins