In the pilot episode of GRC Uncensored, hosts Troy Fine and Elliot Volkman introduce the podcast aimed at having unfiltered discussions about Governance, Risk, and Compliance (GRC). This episode was recorded before any interviews and offers some retrospectives of what became reality or not. They detail their professional backgrounds, especially highlighting Troy's unexpected journey into auditing and meme culture on LinkedIn. The hosts share the focus of future episodes (which have already been published), including the commoditization of compliance and the quality of audits, while emphasizing the importance of honest and authentic conversations in the GRC field. They also discuss the potential for disagreement among industry professionals and encourage audience engagement and feedback.

00:00 Introduction to GRC Uncensored

00:42 Meet the Hosts: Troy Fine and Elliot Volkman

01:34 Troy's Journey into Auditing and Memes

03:10 The Role of CPAs in Cybersecurity

05:29 The Purpose of GRC Uncensored

07:08 Pilot Season and Episode Preview

09:51 Commoditization of Compliance

19:02 Quality of Audits and Future Topics

21:45 Conclusion and Call for Feedback

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In this episode of GRC Uncensored, hosts Troy Fine and Kendra Cooley, along with producer Elliot Volkman, continue their pursuit of trying to understand what is explicitly holding the GRC world back. Joined by ISO expert David Foreman, the discussion tackles the roles of auditors, tech vendors, and market forces in shaping audit quality.

They explore the significance of audit integrity, the staying power of governance programs, and the varying expectations of companies undergoing audits. Amidst an insightful dialogue, the hosts debate the future of automated compliance tools, check-the-box audits, and the elusive definition of audit quality. Ultimately, the episode underscores the issue's complexity, emphasizing that it's not just about the vendors or auditors but also market demands and expectations.

00:00 Introduction to GRC uncensored

00:42 Meet the hosts: Troy and Kendra

01:05 Controversies and LinkedIn debates

01:37 International expansion and podcast updates

02:28 Commoditization of compliance 03:07 Introduction to Dave and his expertise

04:43 The role of vendors in compliance

07:49 Audit quality and market dynamics

09:49 The importance of audit integrity

13:11 Defining audit quality

20:26 Market expectations and audit quality

23:48 Staying power in compliance programs

28:00 High-quality vs. low-quality audit firms

28:59 Top qualities of a good auditor

29:19 Importance of knowledge in auditing

31:06 Compliance automation tools

32:26 Challenges in finding quality auditors

34:30 The reality of check-box audits

35:34 Accreditation and certification nuances

42:12 The future of auditing and trust centers

43:42 Closing remarks and shameless plugs

47:05 Final thoughts and tagline

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GRC Uncensored is back, and your hosts Troy Fine and Elliot Volkman are joined by Martin Cozzi, CEO of Pima, to discuss when, if at all, it makes sense to invest in a GRC tool to support a company's compliance efforts.

The discussion spans the necessity and use of various compliance tools, the challenges of scaling compliance, and the importance of having well-defined processes and dedicated personnel. They highlight the actual costs and benefits of compliance, questioning superficial practices and emphasizing the need for personalized solutions. The episode also addresses misconceptions and executive decisions crucial for maintaining compliance, offering comprehensive insights into modern GRC strategies and the evolving role of tools in achieving SOC 2 compliance.

00:00 Introduction to GRC Uncensored

00:22 Meet the Hosts and Guest Introduction

00:38 The Need for GRC Tools

02:52 Legacy vs. Modern GRC Tools

05:26 Challenges with GRC Tools

12:12 When to Choose GRC Tools

12:49 The Role of Processes in GRC

20:49 GRC Tools for Startups

23:20 The Cost of Compliance

24:43 The Role of Auditors

26:47 Touchless Audits: Pros and Cons

28:19 The Value of SOC 2 Reports

30:50 Choosing the Right Compliance Tools

32:31 The Future of Compliance Tools

40:46 Final Thoughts and Reflections

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In the first episode of 'GRC Uncensored,' hosts Troy Fine, dubbed the 'GRC Meme King,' and Elliot Volkman, alongside guest Kendra Cooley dive into the complexities of Governance, Risk, and Compliance (GRC) in cybersecurity. The discussion unravels the 'love-hate' relationship many security professionals have with compliance frameworks like SOC 2, exploring how they have become commoditized and possibly devalued over time.

The conversation touches upon the challenges security practitioners face in conveying the true value of GRC to businesses, the potential pitfalls of 'SOC in a box' offerings, and the broader implications of compliance becoming a 'check the box' exercise. Moreover, the episode delves into the broader regulatory landscape and the ongoing debates about the role of government regulations in cybersecurity compliance. This candid dialogue sets the stage for future episodes that promise further to dissect the nuances of cybersecurity audits and standards.

00:00 Welcome to GRC Uncensored

01:34 Introducing Kendra Cooley

02:05 Love-Hate Relationship with GRC

03:16 The SOC 2 Debate

04:33 Challenges with SOC 2 Audits

09:10 The Value of SOC 2 in the Industry

12:04 The Evolution of Compliance Frameworks

20:39 False Sense of Security in Compliance

24:46 The Buzz Around AI and Quantum

25:10 Staying Updated as a Security Professional

26:45 Challenges in Penetration Testing and Vendor Assessments

27:37 Compliance and Its Impact on Security

30:10 Government Regulations and Their Effectiveness

32:23 The Complexity of Privacy Laws

38:29 The Role of GRC Teams in Risk Management

42:30 Concluding Thoughts and Future Episodes

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