Ben and Rob armour up for the latest Ridley Scott universe to be plundered for more cash ‘Gladiator II’! Starring Paul Mescal, Denzel Washington, Connie Neilsen and Pedro Pascal, ‘Gladiator II’ follows grown up Lucius as he walks far too closely in the footsteps of the original masterpiece. Twenty three years after the release of the Russell Crowe career maker, Ridley Scott is hoping this franchise can be revived without it going as poorly as every other time he’s done it.

But is this Riddle-y Scott or Diddly Squat when it comes to genius filmmaking? This isn’t just a cynical retread of everything that made the first film fantastic, right? RIGHT?! Is this the latest in this summer’s long line of poorly judged sequels and reboots? And why did Ben find himself left breathless when Rob was left so cold?!

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Ben and Rob experience the ultimate in anti-aging and witness one of the most tragic, heart wrenching love stories ever told. Bookended in odd, seemingly problematic age differences, THAT’S RIGHT! David Fincher’s 2008 Sci-Fi? Romantic? Period drama? … All three? The Curious Case of Benjamin Button starring Brad Pitt, Cate Blanchett and Tilda Swinton, paints a harrowing, heart breaking yet beautiful story highlighting what it means to be young and the impact one life can have on another.

Join us as we find out why this is the best romantic film Ben has ever seen, why this is the worst film Rob has ever seen, how Fincher’s camera forces you to emphasise with his characters and a WILD theory of how Fincher got into making this film.

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Ben and Rob travel back to ancient Rome to help conquer Germania with our favourite Spaniard, Maximus in Ridley Scott’s 2000 sword and sandal EPIC, Gladiator! Starring Russell Crowe, Joaquin Phoenix and Connie Nielsen, this emotionally charged story of loss, heartache and ultimately revenge gives us a harrowing look at the brutality of Maximus’ gladiator arc.

Join us as we investigate what inspired Ridley Scott to make this film? How did the script evolve from inception to final draft? Can Ridley take all the credit for this film’s incredible success at the box office and most importantly… Are Tigers good co-stars?

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Ben and Rob unmask ‘Zodiac’, David Fincher’s tale of the hunt for the self-proclaimed “Zodiac Killer”, responsible for a spate of grisly murders across California from the late sixties through to the early seventies. Starring Jake Gyllenhaal, Mark Ruffalo and Robert Downey Jr, Fincher’s ‘Zodiac’ is a long, uncompromising film beloved by critics but widely ignored by audiences upon its release in 2007.

But is this the most painfully personal movie in David Fincher’s whole filmography? What drove Robert Downey Jr to compare working with Fincher to Soviet prison camps? Which scene in this darkest of movies is the one that most upset Ben? And has starting a Patreon butchered the usual 60 minute show available for free?

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We've gotta take a break from the usual weekly format to have a much needed clearing of the air between each other, a word with ourselves and some news for you, our dearest regular listeners.

New listener? We love that you're here, but maybe circle back to this one after checking out one of the many excellent films in our catalogue. We wanna sit with the regulars for a sec.

We discuss the making of the show, how it used to be, how it is now, and the ways in which so much has changed for us as we've grown. Different from what you were expecting this week I'm sure, but necessary. We love ya.

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Ben and Rob lock themselves into ‘Panic Room’, David Fincher’s box-office sensation starring Jodie Foster, Kristen Stewart, Forest Whitaker and Jared Leto. Mother and daughter duo Meg and Sarah are forced to hide in a panic room in their house when intruders break in; unfortunately for them, the intruders want something that is hidden inside the room and will stop at nothing to claim it. This film allowed Fincher to calm studios fears in his financial reliability after the box-office failure of ‘Fight Club’ whilst flexing his muscles as a technical master behind the camera.

So with everything planned to perfection for this single location movie, why did this movie end up taking nearly three years to finish? Is Jodie Foster so excellent that she is always unrelatable? Are Forest Whitaker’s roles racist typecasting? And can Ben finally let go of the chip on his shoulder surrounding rich people as protagonists!?

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Ben and Rob examine ‘Joker 2: Folie A Deux’ so you don’t have to! Billed as the biggest film event of the year, ‘Joker 2’ will go down in history as one of the all time box-office bombs, reviewing lower than ‘Madame Web’ and left with no route to recouping its massive budget. Starring Joaquin Phoenix, Lady Gaga and Brendan Gleeson with Todd Phillips returning to direct, all seemed set for success for this story of an unwell man facing an unjust world.

So how did the original team behind such an excellent original deliver such a dead-on-arrival dud? Was the film deliberately aimed at punishing the ‘wrong sort’ of fan? Was the musical element a bad idea in total, or just poorly executed? And did Ben and Rob decide THIS episode should also be a musical? They didn’t, did they? DID THEY!?

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Ben and Rob break the first rule of ‘Fight Club’ and talk about why this David Fincher masterpiece is more controversial today than audiences found it on its 1999 release. Starring Brad Pitt, Ed Norton Helena Bonham Carter, ‘Fight Club’ follows an unnamed Narrator as his friendship with a charismatic soap salesman devolves from underground fight clubs into domestic terrorism. Met with confused concern at the time of its release, ‘Fight Club’ flopped at the cinema but soared to unseen heights for its DVD release. Now sitting as the number one most viewed film on Letterboxd.com, we explore how the making of this movie perfectly reflects its themes and still, despite controversy, shines.

But what inspired author Chuck Palahnuik to write the novel on which this film is based? Who was David Fincher’s secret weapon in the writing room ? Is this film maliciously misogynistic or is there a deeper subtext to Marla Singer’s unsympathetic portrayal? And have we, in fact, discovered the secret meaning of the film that completely upends it’s status as a Sigma male ‘bro culture’ masterpiece?

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