In this weeks episode, the boys discuss if in the days of the internet, where esoteric secrets are a Google search away, is there a point to trying to KEEP them hidden, and the place of authorized teachers and initiation in Chaos magick. Then we question whether the internet was a good idea at all, after our "Banish with Laughter" segment has us trying to decide if we need MORE chromosomes or LESS letters in the alphabet to be proper woo woos. In the news we give the "Doesn't matter" update on the election, debate and second Trump assassination attempt, and marvel at the Jungian wisdom of RFK for dropping out of the election and cutting off the head of a whale. And to end the show, we do a broad stroke run over the history of dreaming from the Torah and Aristotle to Sigmund Freud and Carl Jung, and lay out some techniques for dream analysis from Jungian Psychologist Robert A. Johnson and lucid dreaming magic from Carlos Castaneda. And Gary definitely doesn't pee the bed, he wanted us to make sure we said that. Check it out, but only if you have your occult podcast empowerment!

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