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The ChessDojo sensei GM Jesse Kraai and IM David Pruess sit down with WFM Elizabeth Speigel and talk about the state of scholastic chess in today's episode of Dojo Talks, the ChessDojo podcast.

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CHAPTERS 0:00 Scholastic Chess with WFM Elizabeth Spiegel 15:33 Pedagogical Goals 22:20 Chess as School Subject 26:10 Brooklyn Castle and Bringing Chess Into Schools 32:00 Chess and Deep Thinking 39:13 The Impact of Chess on Children 44:16 Do More Girls Play Chess Than Before? 46:46 Strongest Players from WFM Spiegel's Program