Dirty Work

By: Sky News
  • Summary

  • It's a system which is meant to enable police forces to flag their most wanted persons at international borders around the world.
    But, for some, Interpol's red notices have had devastating consequences - they're detained, imprisoned, and extradited, after being wrongly targeted.
    Sahar Zand investigates the red notice system - and gets a rare chance to speak to the organisation's Secretary General.
    Regular people, dissidents and Interpol insiders explain how bad actors have been able - in some cases - to hijack the system to capture people beyond their borders.
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    Warning: This episode contains descriptions of torture

    In our final episode, Sahar Zand tells the story of Jessica, who spent six years in US detention because of a "bogus" Interpol red notice issued after she was harassed by a police officer in her home country, El Salvador.

    The US has specific legislation to prevent Interpol being used for transnational repression, but immigration authorities appear to ignore guidance not to arrest someone solely because of a red notice.

    There's a closer look at the president of Interpol, Major General Ahmed Naser Al-Raisi - a senior police officer in the UAE - who human rights lawyers say is one of the biggest offenders of Interpol abuse.

    And to round off the series, UK security minister Tom Tugendhat explains his appetite for governance changes.

    In episode two of the series, the Interpol secretary general Jurgen Stock spoke to Dirty Work about the red notice system.

    He said: "I think it is a very robust system, and it is a very successful system first and foremost because it helps almost every day around the world to catch dangerous fugitives, murderers, rapists, those who are exploiting children, drug traffickers."

    When asked about people ending up with a notice who shouldn't, he said it is "a small number of cases, but of course, very often significant cases that end up in the media and where we say, yes, this notice should not have been published".

    Presenter: Sahar Zand
    Producer: Heidi Pett
    Senior producer: Sarah Burke
    Sound designer: James Bradshaw
    Editor: Paul Stanworth
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    48 mins
  • Episode Three: Life Sentence
    Aug 3 2023
    In this episode, Sahar Zand goes back to speak to Brian Glendinning about his experience in Iraqi jail, and the harrowing impact of his unforeseen arrest. But Brian, compared to some people, is still lucky.

    For dissidents and opposition figures around the world, the Red Notice is the latest tool for transnational repression by autocratic governments. These people often end up in prison indefinitely, or extradited to the countries they had long fled for safety.

    With expert analysis from Rhys Davies and Ben Keith - authors of Red Notice Monitor - we take a look at the worst case scenarios for being on the wrong end of a Red Notice.

    Sahar meets Zeynure and her three children. They are Uyghur exiles living in Istanbul. Zeynure’s husband, Idris Hasan, has been in prison in Morocco for two years facing extradition to China. Uyghur activists like Idris are increasingly at risk of Red Notices, experts tell us, as China has increased its use of Interpol as a tool of transnational repression. Sahar talks to Idris, who says this Red Notice has been a death sentence. A potential return to China is “worse than death.”

    Plus, Alicia Kearns, the Conservative MP who chairs the UK Parliament’s Foreign Affairs Select Committee, tells Dirty Work about the committee’s “grave concerns” over how the system works. She calls on the Home Office to find a way to inform British nationals if they’re the subject of a malicious red notice.

    WARNING: This episode contains strong language.

    Presenter: Sahar Zand
    Producer: Heidi Pett
    Senior producer: Sarah Burke
    Sound designer: James Bradshow
    Editor: Paul Stanworth
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    42 mins

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