Episode 28! Ricky, Piotr and Erwann have been giving each other feedback on their projects, so they talk about how to spare everyone’s feelings while giving constructive criticism. They wonder who to ask for feedback, what to really keep from the notes given, test screenings, and the insanity of rating movies with the thumbs up/thumbs down method that streaming services enjoy. Also, is "It’s boring!" good or bad feedback ? Piotr says it's good...

Let us know if he’s wrong!

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A listener asked to hear more about editing techniques so Ricky and Piotr talk about the Kuleshov Effect or Editor’s Effect. Named after early 20th century Russian film maker and film theorist, Lev Kuleshov, the “Effect” or “Kuleshov Experiment” as it was also known as, was actually a demonstration proving the effectiveness of existing editing techniques. Ricky and Piotr talk a little about who Kuleshov was, what the "Effect" is and how filmmakers like Hitchcock, Spielberg and others adapted it in their own film making. Then give examples of the Khuleshov Effect or Editor’s Effect in recent films and TV.

What’s in the box?!

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Links of stuff we talked about and used in our research:

The Kuleshov Effect (Wikipedia) - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kuleshov_effect

Kuleshov Effect: Everything You Need To Know: https://www.nfi.edu/kuleshov-effect/

The “Kuleshov Effect” is WRONG! - https://youtu.be/jqi_MtroWA4?si=8B_ICzURWfQa3siM

Lev Kuleshov - https://www.imdb.com/name/nm0474487/bio/?ref_=nm_ov_bio_sm

Se7en scene - “The Box” - https://youtu.be/jqi_MtroWA4?si=8B_ICzURWfQa3siM

Tiger King - https://www.imdb.com/title/tt11823076/?ref_=ext_shr_lnk

Snape Kills Dumbledore - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lRSKCLXXMrk

The Matrix - Mr. Anderson escapes from Agents - https://youtu.be/wnNPJaCmTGw?si=UKbd0ZnV_XfeYJPu

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The theme of this week's episode is "With great power comes great responsibility" as Piotr and Ricky talking about a few of the new AI offerings from Adobe (Generative Extend and Firefly) and Flawless AI's DeepEditor. Without getting deep into describing Adobe's applications, simply put they're useful tools for filmmakers/ artists in a pinch. i,e,. giving that shot a little more tails, fixing someones eye trace, creating missing shots, etc. Where as DeepEditor is some black magic deepfake that works wonders but could be devastating in the wrong hands. Ricky points out that Adobe and Flawless have language about being ethical so much so that DeepEditor can't be utilized without consent from actors. Ricky and Piotr also talk about Piotr attending a couple editing workshops at the Warsaw Film Festival. Plus, American Cinema Editor's EditFest Global and the next season of the podcast. Apologies for Ricky's terrible audio, he had the wrong mic selected. Also, quick correction - Ricky references the movie, "Tower" in regards to DeepEditor, but what he really meant was "Fall." Apololgies. Where were you on that one, AI?

Do you think AI will always be the useful tool or is it a harbinger of doom?

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Links for some of the things we talked about:

Generative Extend (Adobe) - https://blog.adobe.com/en/publish/2024/10/14/generative-extend-in-premiere-pro

Firefly (Adobe) - https://www.adobe.com/products/firefly/features/ai-video-generator.html

DeepEditor (Flawless) - https://www.flawlessai.com/deepeditor

Editfest Global - https://editfestglobal.com/editfest-2024/

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Episode 25 has Piotr, Ricky and Erwann chatting with Robert Frost, an editor on season 4 of Apple TV+'s, spy thriller, Slow Horses.

Robert is a member of the British File Editors and was nominated in 2022 for the Breakthrough Editor category at the BFE Awards. Based in London, he previously assisted on several projects including Landscapers and Criminal UK, was an assembly editor on Season 3 of Sex Education, and editor on the ITV drama, Litvinenko and Apple TV+’s thriller, Hijack starring Idris Elba.

Robert shares with the dudes how he got on Slow Horses, collaborating with director, Adam Randall and editor Harrison Wall, helping adapt the books to screen as a fan, the challenges of having too many good takes from Gary Oldman and advice for aspire editors.

What's your favorite Gary Oldman film?

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links to some things we talked about:

Sex Education - https://www.imdb.com/title/tt7767422/?ref_=ext_shr_lnk

Litvinenko - https://boxd.it/EdjE

Hijack - https://www.imdb.com/title/tt19854762/?ref_=ext_shr_lnk

Landscapers - https://boxd.it/ylWW

Criminal UK - https://www.imdb.com/title/tt9348692/?ref_=ext_shr_lnk

Slough House (book series) - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Slough_House_(novel_series)

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Episode 24! Erwann screams for 25 minutes about how director’s cuts are ruining his childhood, while Ricardo pretends that #allcutsmatter. Piotr quotes Leonardo Da Vinci to sound smarter than the rest the other two. In other words, the three talk about the how and why of certain director's cuts and their own experiences with project versions. They cover Blade Runner, Star Wars, Justice League, James Cameron, George Lucas and more.

What do you think Leonardo Da Vinci would say about director's cuts?

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Links to some of the things we talk about in the episode:

Blade Runner's versions - https://bladerunner.fandom.com/wiki/Versions_of_Blade_Runner

Star Wars updated re-releases - https://starwars.fandom.com/wiki/List_of_changes_in_Star_Wars_re-releases

Empire article about 22 films with multiple releases - https://www.empireonline.com/movies/features/best-directors-cuts/

Super Mario Bros. (1993) - Morton Jankel cut - https://archive.org/details/super-mario-bros-1993-the-morton-jankel-cut-extended-vhs_202207

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This episode has a video component to it as Ricky, Piotr and Erwann watch old edits and discuss their significance and what they learn from them. Erwann shares "Drift," the first action short he cut; Ricky a Halloween promo for the Starz network and Piotr a Maths Pathway awareness documentary. You can watch the episode on our Youtube channel. FYI - We've shared Ricky and Erwann's full edits, which are under a minute and about 30 seconds of Piotr's because it's 16 minutes long.

What's an edit that you're proud of and why?

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Here are the links to their full videos and the visual version:

CTR S2 E23 - Revisiting Old Edits - https://youtu.be/j6nE5JSOcHM

Drift - https://youtu.be/HO5_BoD4cno?si=qPkrps6wFoA2YhPt

Starz Halloween Collection promo - https://vimeo.com/60851470?share=copy

Journey to True Differentiation: The Maths Pathway Story - https://youtu.be/zf6hQR38qFY?si=hnBBHsDEzXVYZplP

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In episode 22, Erwann introduces Piotr and Ricardo to French cinema by sharing his utter lack of knowledge of his own country’s movies and directors. He gets into the movies that made him and hopes to inspire the viewers to follow his recommendations. Piotr also shares a couple of French movies he enjoys, while Ricardo repeatedly repeats « Amelie » and « 400 Blows » to make it look like he knows French cinema.

Films we've mentioned: https://boxd.it/yEV92$6o32JEcX6Y6QAtUc

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Episode 21 and Erwann is back from his vacation! He shares with Piotr and Rick how it’s been cutting a TV series for the first time. Erwann talks about how he got the job, creating the films grammar, working with a progressive shortage of coverage and other challenges, plus working with a composer for the first time. The discussion leads Piotr into mentioning the latest video from Every Frame a Painting on YouTube about sustained two-shots. There’s a little back and forth about the evolution of shot length and the way actors convey emotion. From there they get into Ricky putting up sound proofing in his new home editing suite. Then Erwann asks the guys to share one movie/ show from the watchlist that week and Ricky gives three...

What’s your favorite TV series right now?

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Here are link to some things mentioned in the episode:

DCPomatic: https://dcpomatic.com

Every Frame A Painting - The Sustained Two-Shot: https://youtu.be/mn2Dcy-NDTw?si=Cejm2hBnkM8tOVWf

Cold Little Bird - https://www.imdb.com/title/tt21654496/?ref_=ext_shr_lnk

Doctor Who - https://www.imdb.com/title/tt31433814/?ref_=ext_shr_lnk

Russel T. Davies - https://www.imdb.com/name/nm0203961/?ref_=ext_shr_lnk

Brats - https://boxd.it/BMHK

The Brat Pack - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Brat_Pack

The Promise Land - https://boxd.it/B1hA

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