Cider Chat

By: Ria Windcaller: Award-winning Cidermaker Podcaster | Craft Beer Columnist
  • Summary

  • Interviewing cidermakers importers, orchardists, foodies, farmers and cider enthusiasts around the world. Let’s delve into the semantics of cider…or is it hard cider, cidre, sidra or fermented apple juice? The truth is out there in Ciderville and we are going to find it. We toast in celebration of cider; As a libation, a gift from the gods, a taste of terroir, and a hard pressed good time. Ready to quench your thirst? Grab a glass and join this chat! See you in Ciderville!
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Episodes
  • 443: Cider’s Single Varietal Capital | Ross on Wye Cider and Perry Co.
    Jan 22 2025
    Albert Johnson on Ross on Wye Cider & Perry Offerings This is the 3rd time we have featured Albert Johnson because it is always a treat to hear about the happenings at Ross on Wye Cider and Perry. In particular, we catch up on the accommodations on site for visitors and of course the wide range of single varietal ciders. Albert Johnson In this Cider Chat Visitor Experiences and Accommodations Discussion on camping, bed & breakfast options, and orchard chalets. Includes details on the Yew Tree pub and its offerings. Cider Offerings and Unique Styles Explanation of single varietal ciders, dry cider philosophy, and production techniques. Events and Festivals Highlights of monthly cider clubs, Ciderganza, Summertime Soiree, and the Ross Cider Fest. Cider Pairing Insights Recommendations for pairing cider with specific dishes, including creamy pastas, fish, and spicy curries. Social Media and Community Engagement Albert’s approach to outreach via tastings, social media, and fostering personal connections. Future Plans and Challenges Focus on growth strategies, challenges in the UK cider market, and maintaining the unique identity of Ross on Wye. Conclusion and Final Thoughts Reflection on the importance of community, passion for cider, and welcoming visitors to Ross on Wye. B&B Breakfast by Aunt Hillary at Broome Farm B&B Event Calendar at Ross Ross Cider Fest: Starts the Thursday after the August Bank Holiday (varies yearly, e.g., August 28 in 2025).Ciderganza: Easter weekend.Summertime SoireeRoss-tober-fest: Contact for Ross on Wye Cider and Perry Company Yew Tree Pub, Ross on Wye Cider and Perry Co. Website: rosscider.com Mentions in this Cider Chat Totally Cider Tour to the UK – send an email to info@ciderchat.com to get on the wait list for this 2025 tour taking place August 25-31, 2025Snowcapped Cider | ColoradoCiderCon2025 Promo Code – Once you get to the registration form, towards the end of the first page you’ll reach a section in the form that says “additional registration information” and there is a question: If you have a coupon, please enter code here (case-sensitive): CiderChat Past Episodes with Albert Johnson 410: International Perry Panel | CiderCon 2024404: Ross Cider and Perry is Lit!194: The Reason for Being | Ross on Wye Cider & Perry, UK
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    56 mins
  • 442: Bob Cork: 40 Years in Cider | Shepton Mallet, England
    Jan 15 2025
    Bob Cork’s Cider Career Bob Cork
    • Bob Cork has 40 years of experience in cider making, starting in 1980.
    • Initially an apprentice engineer, he transitioned to cider making, thanks to his engineering background.
    • He now works as a cider-making consultant, still contributing to the legacy of Showering Cider Mill.
    The Evolution of Showering Cider Mill and Babycham Entrance to Showering Mill
    • Showering Cider Mill, made an undeniable mark for a perry called Babycham.
    • The mill has evolved over the years, modernizing its equipment while maintaining traditional cider-making techniques.
    • During the production of Babycham, horizontal tanks for producing this widely popular drink. At the time they were laid outside and eventually a buidlign was built around the tanks.
    • The Shepton Mallet Cider Mill is the second largest mill in the UK and over the years it expanded to include a variety of ciders, while continuing to produce Babycham, the popular Fever brand and today a traditional cider called Showering Triple Vintage.
    The Traditional and Modern Blend: The Triple Vintage Matthew, Daniel, Jonathan Showering and Ria Windcaller

    The Triple Vintage cider, created by the Showerings blends three vintages to produce a high-quality product.

    Bob Cork in this episode discusses how it is made using bittersweet and bittersharp apples, fermented with a wee bit of natural yeast and then a cultured yeast. The cider is matured to achieve a balanced, high-quality cider. Key to the cider-making process, is low-temperature fermentation and controlled maturation.

    Bob Cork’s Advice for Aspiring Cider Makers
    • Bob advises aspiring cider makers to approach the craft with passion, as it requires significant investment and a long-term commitment.
      • He emphasizes the importance of a solid business plan and understanding the market’s cyclical nature.
      • Despite the challenges, he believes in the future of cider, with increasing consumer interest in high-quality, craft ciders.
    Mention in this Cider Chat
    • CiderCon2025 Promo Code – Once you get to the registration form, towards the end of the first page you’ll reach a section in the form that says “additional registration information” and there is a question: If you have a coupon, please enter code here (case-sensitive): CiderChat
    • Totally Cider Tour to the UK – send an email to info@ciderchat.com to get on the wait list for this 2025 tour taking place August 25-31, 2025
    • Wassail episode: episode 393: How to Wassail and Drink Hail
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    1 hr and 5 mins
  • 441: Wilding Cider and the Rural Method | Somerset, UK
    Jan 8 2025

    Wilding Cider, founded by Sam and Beccy Leach in 2019, uses Regenerative farming practices and a “rural method” to cider making. Based in Somerset the culinary skills of Sam blend with Beccy’s Sommelier palate. Their dedication to traditional orchards and natural fermentations has led to the creation of their standout orchard based ciders and perrys. This process sets Wilding apart, showcasing a commitment to purity, sustainability, and the land.

    Beccy and Same Leach The Orchard at Wilding
    • Size & Scope: 7.5 acres at the home orchard and additional rented orchards.
    • Varieties: Kingston Black, Stoke Red, Porter’s Perfection, and so many more.
    • Regenerative Practices
    Sam in the home orchard

    The orchards provide the perfect environment for Wilding’s cider-making, ensuring low-intervention fermentations that align with the Rural Method philosophy.

    What is the Rural Method of Cider Making

    Sam credits Skyborry cider in Wales for coining the phrase “rural Method”. He explains in this chat that at Wilding Cider Rural Method is an energy-efficient, traditional approach to crafting naturally sweet ciders. It utilizes:

    • Cold Winter Fermentations: Utilizing natural temperatures to slow fermentation.
    • Low Nitrogen Content: Achieved by using unfertilized orchards for balanced fermentations.
    • Minimal Intervention: Avoiding filtration, sulfites, or pasteurization.

    This method produces clean, complex ciders that capture the essence of Somerset orchards.

    Signature Wilding Ciders and Perry

    Wilding Cider showcases the Rural Method through their unique blends and single varietals:

    • Symphony: A bittersweet blend.
    • Comics: Multi-orchard cider built on Browns and Yarlington.
    • Single Varietals: Stoke Red and Kingston Black.
    • Perry Cider: Carefully macerated to achieve depth and balance.

    These ciders are celebrated for their balance of tannins, acidity, and natural sweetness, hallmarks of the Rural Method.

    Contact and how to find Wilding Cider
    • Website: http://wildingcider.com
    • Open Days: Second Saturday of the month, April through September.
    • UK: Independent shops and restaurants.
    • International: Belgium, Japan, and limited availability in the U.S.
    Mentions in this Cider Chat
    • CiderCon2025 Promo Code – Once you get to the registration form, towards the end of the first page you’ll reach a section in the form that says “additional registration information” and there is a question: If you have a coupon, please enter code here (case-sensitive): CiderChat
    • Totally Cider Tour to the UK – send an email to info@ciderchat.com to get on the wait list for this 2025 tour taking place August 25-31, 2025
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    1 hr and 8 mins

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