Carmen doesn't want to talk like Jordan Peterson talks. He likes JP he and he listens to JP but he's not funny. In funny sometimes you got to be stupid and JP is never stupid and that's a problem for a comedian. Being stupid and risking people thinking you're an idiot is part of being comedian. So for me I stay away from all smart talk all the time. I can talk smart but who wants to? Not me. You can easily tell that by what I'm writing here and how I went from 3rd person to first. Anyway listen to the pod if you want to have a spike in your baseline brainwave activity.

This is part 2 of my discussion with my great friend and comedy cohort Tim Wilkins. We discuss the League of Comedic Shadows, Trump as Goat Boy, The Dark Side of Comedy, Casino Advertising and more. Tim and I have worked many gigs together and have a ton to talk about so sit back and enjoy the 33 year relationship of two stand up comics.

In this two part podcast, Carmen breaks a few balls with longtime friend and comedy collaborator Tim Wilkins. Carmen met Tim in Los Angeles in 1991 at a comedy gig and since then the two have written for Jay Leno, created commercials, produced comedy shows and appeared on stage together over the decades. Carmen discusses with Tim how big his pod supposedly is in Poland, how to use comedy for other purposes, the sad part of stand up, how comedians can't donate anonymously and the possibility of Tim and Carmen starting a podcast together. Enjoy!