In this episode, Trenia Parham and David DeVaughn dive into the intricate dynamics of how non-Black Americans, people of color, and Blacks who did not grow up in predominantly Black communities experience and understand race and oppression. They explore personal stories, the impacts of anti-Blackness, and the complexities of solidarity within diverse communities. Trenia also shares her work with Sustainable Leadership Consulting and Coaching, helping women leaders recover from burnout and improving organizational culture.

00:00 - Introduction by Trenia Parham and David DeVaughn 02:13 - David shares his personal journey growing up in a white suburb and learning about Blackness 04:50 - Trenia discusses her strong sense of identity as a Black woman from the Midwest 10:05 - The shock of non-Black people using the N-word and cultural appropriation 12:35 - The diversity of the Black experience and the misconception of a monolithic Black culture 17:39 - The impact of African Americanness on solidarity and support within communities 21:23 - The proximity to whiteness and its influence on experiences of people of color 24:25 - Experiences with non-Black people of color in nonprofit spaces 31:41 - The global perspective on oppression and the focus on Palestine 37:34 - Reflections on the 2020 uprising for racial justice and its aftermath

• Trenia Parham https://www.treniaparham.com
• David DeVaughn's StrivEquity Consulting