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  • Virtuals Protocol and the intersection of Agentic AI & Web3 with Jansen Teng

    Virtuals Protocol and the intersection of Agentic AI & Web3 with Jansen Teng
    Jan 14 2025
    "What does great look like? For us, it's being able to achieve this vision of a society of agents. So, if you can show clearly the economic value of a society when agents can influence other agents, agents can influence humans, and humans can influence agents, that would be something that I'll be very proud to say that we've accomplished. Because that's the beauty of really combining breakthroughs on the AI, on the autonomous agent front, and the value add of crypto. This is one of those very rare moments that crypto has that true potential value add, right? As a productivity lever and an economic lever in society." - Jansen Teng

    Fresh out of the studio, Jansen Teng, co-founder and CEO of Virtuals Protocol joins us to share the mission and vision of Virtuals Protocol and how the protocol intersects generative AI and web3, unlocking the world of autonomous AI agents powered by tokenization to unlock new economic possibilities. Beginning from his origin story, he explained how the Virtuals team explored and eventually come to the realization how tokenized AI agents can power entertainment, gaming and trading with Luna, the AI avatar that grew through the help of AI agents and even inspiring works of real art. Last but not least, Jansen offered his perspectives on the trends of agentic AI and web3 and elucidate what great looks like for the Virtuals Protocol.

    Audio Episode Highlights:
    [00:46] Quote of the Day by Jansen Teng, co-founder and CEO of Virtuals Protocol
    [02:33] Introduction: Jansen Teng
    [03:46] Jansen Teng shares his origin story in crypto, gaming, and AI
    [06:27] Early experiments with AI agents and gaming in Roblox
    [07:44] Realizing AI agents as revenue-generating assets
    [09:15] Tokenization and Economic Innovation in Virtuals Protocol
    [13:17] Navigating challenges during the bear market and pivoting to virtual Protocol
    [17:32] Virtuals Protocol's Vision and Mission for creating and co-owning AI agents
    [19:46] Observations of agents mimicking societal roles and functioning autonomously
    [23:16] The story of Luna and her evolution as an AI influencer
    [31:20] How autonomous agents sparked creativity in the crypto space
    [40:19] Balancing innovation and scaling challenges for Virtuals Protocol
    [43:53] The evolving vision of Virtuals Protocol and the society of agents
    [47:21] Virtuals Protocol as the economic foundation for AI agents
    [50:56] Challenges and trends in the AI agent ecosystem
    [53:19] Exploring billion-dollar verticalized AI agents
    [57:28] Closing

    Profile: Jansen Teng, co-founder & CEO of Virtuals Protocol.
    LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/jansenteng
    Twitter: https://x.com/ethermage

    Podcast Information: Bernard Leong hosts and produces the show. The proper credits for the intro and end music are "Energetic Sports Drive." G. Thomas Craig mixed and edited the episode in both video and audio format. Here are the links to watch or listen to our podcast.

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    58 mins
  • Why Southeast Asia Matters with Gullnaz Baig

    Why Southeast Asia Matters with Gullnaz Baig
    Jan 1 2025
    "People always ask us this question, what can I learn from that country? People ask us about this from the report especially when we're talking to policymakers, or what should I learn from Malaysia? What should I learn? The thing to learn is  to not learn  to replicate exactly.  But the thing to learn is sort of what are the principles behind what works for them. What are your comparative advantages, Every country needs to be asking that for themselves. So for Vietnam, comparative advantages are things like  proximity to China, and an ability at a geopolitical level to navigate between the U.S. and China.  They do this pretty delicately, given their history with both countries. There's an acquiescence by the major powers also to not force Vietnam to take sides. And, you know, and so it's a delicate balancing game that ASEAN always plays ..." - Gullnaz Baig

    Fresh out of the studio, Gullnaz Baig, executive director from the Angsana Council, shares her perspectives on the "Southeast Asia Outlook 2024-2034: Navigating the High Winds" report by Angsana Council, DBS and Bain & Co. In our conversation, Gullnaz emphasized Southeast Asia’s unique strengths, including its cultural diversity, openness to innovation, and ability to navigate geopolitical complexities between global powers like China and the U.S. She highlighted Southeast Asia’s resilience, citing its rising wealth, improving standards of living, and comparative advantages such as Vietnam’s strong STEM workforce and the Philippines’ English-speaking talent. Last but not least, she described the importance of leveraging regional collaboration and technology to foster sustainable growth and offered her thoughts on what great would look like for the region.

    Episode Highlights:
    [00:46] Quote of the Day by Gullnaz Baig
    [01:28] Gullnaz Baig’s Career Journey and Key Milestones
    [03:53] Introduction to the Angsana Council and Its Mission
    [05:52] Career Lessons and Importance of Mentorship
    [07:50] Southeast Asia's Economic Outlook for 2024-2034
    [10:03] Collaboration Behind the Southeast Asia Outlook Report
    [12:46] Economic Resilience of Southeast Asia Over the Past 30 Years
    [16:58] Structural Challenges Across Southeast Asia
    [20:29] Vietnam’s Growth Potential and Comparative Advantages
    [25:17] Philippines’ Services Sector and Comparative Strengths
    [26:14] Startups in Southeast Asia: Building and Scaling Across Borders
    [29:51] Southeast Asia’s Receptiveness to New Technology
    [31:50] China’s Influence and Opportunities in Southeast Asia
    [34:42] Navigating Geopolitical Tensions Between China and the U.S.
    [36:29] Leveraging China’s Strengths in Southeast Asia
    [38:52] The question that Gullnaz would like people to ask her more: Who are Southeast Asians?
    [45:19] What Does Great Look Like for Southeast Asia?
    [47:03] Closing

    Profile: Gullnaz Baig, Executive Director of Angsana Council
    LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/gullnazbaig/
    Angsana Council: https://angsanacouncil.org/member/gullnaz-baig/

    Podcast Information: Bernard Leong hosts and produces the show. Proper credits for the intro and end music: "Energetic Sports Drive" and the episode is mixed & edited in both video and audio format by G. Thomas Craig. Here are the links to watch or listen to our podcast.

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    51 mins
  • The Transition to Electric Buses: The KMB Experience & Philanthrophy with William Louey

    The Transition to Electric Buses: The KMB Experience & Philanthrophy with William Louey
    Dec 17 2024
    “ Yeah. We plan to replace the fleet by 2040. We can't scrap all of them now because each bus lasts 18 years. So we have the depreciation for 18 years. They're all from the U.K. All the buses are from the U.K. All the double-deckers. That's the only country that makes double-decker buses, and it's the same as Singapore. All the double-deckers are from the U.K. Because of COVID, when we replace all these diesel buses with electricity, you need a lot more power and electricity to accommodate this. So the government has to work with us. But today, we can't really see that if we import all these 4,000 electric buses to Hong Kong, there will be enough charging stations. We'll have to build a new depot that accommodates electric buses. So in Yuen Long, we're building a seven-storey, new depot that can charge 1,000 buses every night. But after we build it, the government has to give us the confidence that they can give us the power to charge these buses. So there's no point building a new depot if there's not enough electricity to charge it. So we're delaying it now. But the idea is still the same. We will have to replace it with green energy because it's much better for the environment.” - William Louey

    Fresh out of the studio, William Louey, 4th generation business leader of Kowloon Motor Bus (KMB), talks about his vision for transforming Hong Kong’s public transportation system through sustainability and innovation. He discusses KMB’s ambitious plan to electrify its bus fleet by 2040, highlighting the challenges of infrastructure, power supply, and government collaboration. He also shares his philanthropic efforts specifically on education and how they shaped the next generation of leaders to pay it forward. Last but not least, William shares what great would look like for KMB in a green and sustainable future.

    Audio Episode Highlights:
    [00:46] Quote of the Day (#QOTD) by William Louey
    [02:07] Introduction to the Guest and KMB's Electrification Plan
    [02:53] Influences from Family and Philanthropic Leadership
    [04:44] The Beginnings of the Educational Foundation
    [07:31] Shifting from Wealth Accumulation to Making an Impact
    [18:11] Overview of KMB’s Role in Hong Kong’s Transportation Network
    [21:35] Vision for Green Transit: KMB’s Electric Bus Roadmap
    [23:15] Exploring Hybrid and Emerging Technologies
    [25:31] Infrastructure and Power Challenges for Electrification
    [28:46] Autonomous Vehicles and the Future of Public Transit
    [34:16] The One Thing William Louey Knows that Very Few Do
    [35:58] Balancing Technology and Employee Welfare
    [37:26] What Does Great Look Like for KMB?
    [40:19] Pet Buses and Women-Only Bus Routes in Hong Kong
    [42:49] Closing Thoughts and Reflections

    Profile: William Louey, Businessman and Philanthropist in Hong Kong. William Louey serves as a non-executive director of Transport International and founding member of JNW Properties. He established the William S. D. Louey Educational Foundation in memory of his grandfather. The William S.D. Louey Educational Foundation provides scholarships and bursaries to academically outstanding students from Hong Kong and Greater China for overseas studies.

    Podcast Information: Bernard Leong hosts and produces the show. Proper credits for the intro and end music: "Energetic Sports Drive" and the episode is mixed & edited in both video and audio format by G. Thomas Craig

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    44 mins
  • The China Business Conundrum with Ken Wilcox

    The China Business Conundrum with Ken Wilcox
    Dec 3 2024
    "But what I didn't realize is that the main reason they wanted us in China was so that they could study our business model and figure out how to copy it over time. And that was something I wasn't expecting, but I should have. If I were less naive, And if I were better prepared, I would have realized that was the intention. So the original title, the working title I had for my book, which I had to change because the publisher didn't like it, my original title was 'One Bed, Two Dreams' (同床异梦).   Because that's a phrase that most Chinese are familiar with." - Ken Wilcox

    Fresh out of the studio, Ken Wilcox, former CEO of Silicon Valley Bank and author of "The China Business Conundrum", shares his experiences establishing Silicon Valley Bank’s joint venture in China, uncovering the challenges of navigating cultural differences, guanxi, and examine China’s playbook in bringing successful foreign ventures onshore. He reflects on lessons learned, from differing views on contracts and negotiation tactics to the complexities of building trust in a new business landscape and offers invaluable advice for Western companies eyeing the Chinese market. Last but not least, he concludes by sharing his hopes for the book’s impact, emphasizing the importance of understanding and collaboration between the East and West.

    Audio Episode Highlights:
    [00:00] Quote of the Day by Ken Wilcox
    [01:66] Ken Wilcox’s career journey and transition to China.
    [06:35] Life and leadership lessons.
    [09:47] The One Thing that Ken knows about Doing Business in China that very few do.
    [12:40] Importance of Silicon Valley Bank in China.
    [17:12] Cultural and regulatory challenges in China.
    [26:10] Understanding guanxi in Chinese business.
    [37:51] Adapting to China and reverse culture shock.
    [40:14] The Chinese negotiating style centres on leverage and power.
    [48:37] What happened to the joint venture post-SVB crisis?
    [53:10] Contrasts in negotiation styles between China and the U.S.
    [54:51] What does success mean for The China Business Conundrum?
    [56:18] Recent book recommendations.
    [57:52] Final reflections on time spent in China.

    Profile: Ken Wilcox, Author of "The China Business Conundrum: Ensure That "Win-Win" Doesn't Mean Western Companies Lose Twice"

    Main Site: https://kenwilcoxauthor.com/

    LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/kenwilcoxsvb/

    Substack: https://kenwilcoxauthor.substack.com/

    Amazon: https://www.amazon.com/China-Business-Conundrum-Win-Win-Companies/dp/1394294166/

    Podcast Information: Bernard Leong hosts and produces the show. Proper credits for the intro and end music: "Energetic Sports Drive" and the episode is mixed & edited in both video and audio format by G. Thomas Craig

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    58 mins
  • ExtraOrdinary: From Stay-at-Home Mom to Global Entrepreneur with Yvon Bock

    ExtraOrdinary: From Stay-at-Home Mom to Global Entrepreneur with Yvon Bock
    Nov 26 2024
    "So, my definition of being fearless is not about no fear, but it's having that courage to face your fear, to conquer whatever adversities that are thrown your way. it is part of the entrepreneur journey. We are always faced with fear of failure. Self Doubt is how to pick up our courage and face them and use these challenges to become your catalyst for innovation, the catalyst for growth, the catalyst for your success." - Yvon Bock

    Fresh out of the studio, Yvon Bock, Founder and CEO of Hegen, shares her inspiring journey from stay-at-home mom to world-class entrepreneur in her new book, "ExtraOrdinary". Yvon discusses how personal challenges as a breastfeeding mother fueled her vision to create Hegen’s groundbreaking baby bottle, overcoming five years of development and over 200 prototypes. She reflects on the bold decisions behind Hegen’s expansion into China, including leveraging live streaming to reach millions and highlights how storytelling and advocacy transformed her brand into a movement supporting modern moms. Last but not least, Yvon shares what great would look like for Hegen in the future: empowering 100 million mothers worldwide and establishing a presence in 35 jurisdictions.

    Audio Episode Highlights:
    [0:46] Quote of the Day by Yvon Bock #QOTD
    [1:18] Introduction: Yvon Bock, Founder & CEO of Hegen
    [3:12] From Stay-at-Home Mom to Entrepreneur
    [3:48] The Origin of Hegen
    [7:43] The Role of Family Business in Yvon's Journey
    [15:28] Overcoming Prototypes and Doubts
    [22:44] Expanding into the Chinese Market
    [27:18] The Power of Live Streaming and Advocacy
    [33:49] Key Lessons for Future Entrepreneurs
    [35:54] Teaching Children to Embrace Failure
    [38:05] Balancing Breastfeeding Advocacy and Bottles
    [40:04] Building a Global Legacy for Hegen
    [40:53] Closing

    You can find Yvon Bock and her new book on her personal site: https://www.yvonbock.com/ and via LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/yvonbock/

    Podcast Information: Bernard Leong hosts and produces the show. Proper credits for the intro and end music: "Energetic Sports Drive" and the episode is mixed & edited in both video and audio format by G. Thomas Craig

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    43 mins
  • Unlocking the Power of Generative AI in Dow Jones with Ingrid Verschuren

    Unlocking the Power of Generative AI in Dow Jones with Ingrid Verschuren
    Nov 19 2024
    "So, we are very conscious of the fact that we license the content from other publications. And as I mentioned previously, we do that through licensing agreements. We are transparent with the publishers about what happens with their content. We ensure that they are being fairly compensated for the content that we use. But, as a result, when we started talking about how we wanted to use Gen AI, we actually felt that we had an obligation to go back to publishers and ask for additional licensing rights. Part of that, I think, is driven by the fact that Dow Jones is a publisher. We are a publisher ourselves. We are very protective of our content. We want to make sure that we understand what's happening with our content: Where is it going? Who is using it? And we want to be fairly compensated for it. So, if that's one of our core principles, then we also want to make sure that we treat all the other publishers exactly the same. One of the challenges has been that we had to go back to all publishers and ask for additional Gen AI licensing rights. The positive of that is that the content now available through Gen AI is actually fully licensed content. All publishers have given us permission to use their content for this specific use case." - Ingrid Vershuren

    Fresh out of the studio, Ingrid Verschuren, Executive Vice President of Data and AI and General Manager, EMEA, at Dow Jones, shares her journey from manually indexing news articles at Reuters to leading Factiva’s transition into the era of generative AI. She explains the mental models and frameworks behind how Dow Jones uses AI to empower businesses with reliable data and insights and discusses the recent partnership with Google’s Gemini model and explains how Dow Jones works with the other content publications, navigating the complexities of trust and business model innovation. Last but not least, Ingrid explains what great would look like for Factiva in the age of AI.

    Audio Episode Highlights:
    [0:46] Quote of the Day #QOTD by Ingrid Verschuren
    [2:19] Introduction to Ingrid Verschuren and Factiva
    [4:29] Career Lessons from Ingrid
    [5:58] Overview of Factiva
    [8:30] The Evolution of Factiva and AI
    [10:41] Applications of Generative AI for Factiva
    [13:37] Challenges and Opportunities with Generative AI
    [15:27] Safeguarding Against Misinformation
    [19:25] Partnership with Google and Gemini Model
    [21:29] Transparency and Auditability
    [24:24] Staying Agile with Generative AI
    [26:32] The Future of AI in Business Intelligence
    [27:48] The Role of Human Judgment in AI
    [28:59] What Great Looks Like for Factiva in the Age of Generative AI
    [29:43] Closing

    You can find Ingrid Verschuren, Executive Vice President, Data and AI and General Manager, EMEA at Dow Jones: https://www.linkedin.com/in/ingrid-verschuren-61a7684/

    Podcast Information: Bernard Leong hosts and produces the show. Proper credits for the intro and end music: "Energetic Sports Drive" and the episode is mixed & edited in both video and audio format by G. Thomas Craig

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    32 mins
  • From Research to Real-World Impact: AI in Action with Sun Sumei

    From Research to Real-World Impact: AI in Action with Sun Sumei
    Nov 14 2024
    "The efficiency on top of the efficacy because it is critical that we will achieve this balance of cost and performance. And in addition to that, I think one more aspect we are putting emphasis is actually how, in the new era of AI, all pervasive intelligence and pervasive connectivity, how do we bring human, AI, and machine into a cohesive coexistence and also cohesive collaboration so that we are able to have actually the AI machine support human, empower human, and at the same time. We look at actually the design of the workflows so that we are able to extract out the value, at the same time, also elevate the human to do more creative works. So this is one aspect. I think we have been hearing a lot, but how this will move forward is some efforts have started, and certainly we look forward to gathering more ecosystem partners to embark on this journey together." - Dr Sun Sumei, Executive Director, Institute of Infocomm Research, ASTAR

    Fresh out of the studio, Dr. Sun Sumei, Executive Director of the Institute for Infocomm Research (I2R) at Singapore’s ASTAR shares her perspectives on AI’s fast-paced evolution and its broader impact on the future. With over a decade dedicated to AI research, Dr. Sumei reflects on I2R’s journey from big data analytics to the era of Generative AI, emphasizing large language models designed for Southeast Asia. Advocating for responsible AI, Dr. Sumei prioritizes societal benefit and sustainability over sheer technical ambition, urging a balanced, systematic approach to distinguish valuable applications from mere hype. Last but not least she shares her vision of AI as a force to enhance human creativity and address real-world challenges through sustainable innovation."

    Audio Episode Highlights:
    [0:46] - Introduction to Sun Sumei and her role at ASTAR
    [2:09] - Sun Sumei’s journey from China to Singapore
    [2:50] - The mission of the Institute for Infocomm Research (I2R)
    [4:00] - Research at I2R blending innovation with commercial applications
    [4:11] - Career lessons from Sun Sumei’s extensive experience in science and technology
    [6:32] - The evolution of AI and its rapid advancements
    [7:15] - Striking a balance between performance and cost in AI
    [8:11] - Collaborating with Singapore Airlines on AI for fleet optimization
    [9:55] - Focus on multimodal AI and large language model development
    [11:26] - AI for manufacturing: The AIM initiative
    [12:20] - MerLion: I2R multi-modal LLM in the works
    [13:27] - The future of AI in scientific discovery and its potential for sustainability
    [16:03] - The balance between necessary and unnecessary AI applications
    [16:55] - Responsible AI: Navigating the curiosity phase
    [19:10] - Achieving success in AI through efficiency and model optimization
    [20:52] - What constitutes success in AI: Technical breakthroughs vs. societal impact
    [22:48] - AI for good: Contributing to humanity and sustainability
    [24:02] - The importance of a systematic approach to AI
    [24:53] - Closing remarks and future expectations for AI

    You can find Dr Sun Sumei here in ASTAR: https://www.a-star.edu.sg/i2r/about-i2r/i2r-management/sun-sumei and her LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/sumei-sun-8590814/?originalSubdomain=sg

    Podcast Information: Bernard Leong hosts and produces the show. Proper credits for the intro and end music: "Energetic Sports Drive" and the episode is mixed & edited in both video and audio format by G. Thomas Craig

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    26 mins
  • The e-Conomy Southeast Asia 2024 Report with Sapna Chadha, Fock Wai Hoong & Florian Hoppe

    The e-Conomy Southeast Asia 2024 Report with Sapna Chadha, Fock Wai Hoong & Florian Hoppe
    Nov 5 2024
    "The key message of the report is that the fundamentals of this region are critical, they’re clear, and businesses are doing exactly, I think, what they need to do for us to move ahead." - Sapna Chadha "Given that one of the other themes we’ve had this year is trust, having a strong regulatory foundation and good constructs around that for digital financial services is critical to unlocking the next wave of growth here." - Florian Hoppe "All 10 ASEAN nations have announced their own national strategic AI initiatives or plans, and ASEAN itself has actually released a report and guide on AI governance and ethics. So, I think if you put all that together, it’s very natural that Southeast Asia is, quite frankly, well-positioned to capitalize on the AI trend." - Fock Wai Hoong

    Fresh out of the studio in Google, Bernard Leong led a discussion on the 2024 Southeast Asia Digital Economy Report, joined by Sapna Chadha (Google), Florian Hope (Bain & Company), and Wai Hoong (Temasek). The panel delved into Southeast Asia's impressive digital growth, with the region’s economy reaching $263 billion in GMV and significant strides in profitability. The panellists examined the key themes which include Southeast Asia’s emergence as an AI hub, driven by $30 billion in AI investments, the rise of video commerce, and the region’s booming digital financial services specifically on embedded insurance. The conversation highlights challenges and opportunities in digital inclusion, AI infrastructure, and regional integration, providing a nuanced outlook on Southeast Asia’s potential. The episode concludes with each panellist sharing their vision for Southeast Asia’s digital future and success metrics for the next decade, emphasizing the region’s unique strengths and long-term global impact.

    Audio Episode Highlights
    [00:46] Introduction
    [02:17] Key Report Insights
    [04:09] How Sapna, Florian, and Wai Hoong provide perspectives to the key report takeaways
    [07:00] Investor Perspective on Southeast Asia
    [10:06] Exiting the Funding Winter
    [12:44] AI’s Role in Accelerating Growth
    [14:30] Impact of Video E-commerce
    [16:23] Growth in Digital Financial Services
    [18:03] Embedded Insurance in E-commerce
    [24:12] AI Infrastructure Investment
    [27:55] Southeast Asia’s Startup Ecosystem
    [29:45] Generative AI Use Cases
    [31:06] AI for Revenue and Cost Optimization
    [34:16] New Internet Users and Digital Inclusion
    [37:55] Regional Integration as a Success Metric
    [39:01] Vision for Southeast Asia Digital Economy Success
    [40:20] Closing Remarks

    Podcast Information: Bernard Leong hosts and produces the show. Proper credits for the intro and end music: "Energetic Sports Drive" and the episode is mixed & edited in both video and audio format by G. Thomas Craig

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