In this conversation, Kylie Cross and Wendy Hack discuss the complexities of coping with pain, addiction, and recovery. Wendy shares her personal journey through trauma, addiction, and eventual healing, emphasizing the importance of vulnerability, spirituality, and community support. They explore the differences between healthy and unhealthy coping mechanisms, the impact of family dynamics, and the significance of setting boundaries with loved ones struggling with addiction. The discussion highlights the power of connection and the hope that exists in the journey of recovery.

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Chapters

00:00 Coping with Pain: A Journey Begins

01:49 Wendy's Story: From Struggle to Healing

04:36 The Role of Spirituality in Recovery

08:29 Vulnerability and Acceptance: Breaking Down Walls

10:04 Family Dynamics: Understanding the Past

12:41 The Duality of Public and Private Life

16:20 Finding God in the Darkness

24:56 Understanding Free Will and Its Consequences

27:24 Helping Others: Wendy's Path to Counseling

27:26 Wendy's Journey in Recovery Leadership

29:23 The Role of Connection in Recovery

32:05 Understanding Emotional Pain and Coping Mechanisms

35:07 Supporting Those in Temptation

37:57 Navigating Relationships with Addicts

40:57 The Commonality of Coping Mechanisms

44:01 Self-Care vs. Self-Indulgence

47:01 Finding Hope and Healing

53:06 Wendy's Book and Final Thoughts

55:47 Introduction and Encouragement

56:01 Engagement and Connection with the Audience