In this episode, Elena engages in a deep and thought-provoking conversation with Katherine Folk-Sullivan, a PCC-credentialed coach and certified trauma-informed coach. They explore the intricate dynamics of humility in effective leadership, the vital role it plays in fostering a culture of openness and growth within organizations, and the ongoing journey of personal and collective growth in the realm of anti-racism.

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Katherine shares her transformative journey into coaching and her deep commitment to anti-racism work. What started as a personal exploration to address her own challenges evolved into a passion for guiding others through their journeys. She candidly reflects on the discomfort she experienced when stepping into the role of an anti-racism expert, confronting her self-perception in light of her colleagues' experiences. Her insights serve as a reminder that anti-racism is a continuous journey, urging all leaders - especially those from privileged backgrounds - to approach it with humility and an awareness of the spiritual costs of oppression.

Katherine advocates for shifting the focus from binary conversations around racism to fostering personal relationships and cultural humility. She encourages listeners to practice open-heartedness and connection, even with those who hold opposing views, suggesting that true leadership involves recognizing our tendency to 'other' others and instead choosing to engage in meaningful dialogue.

In today’s polarized world, Katherine emphasizes the importance of nurturing personal relationships and fostering cultural humility. Her call for connection and dialogue serves as a powerful reminder of the role open-heartedness plays in bridging divides and cultivating understanding.

This episode will leave you empowered and reflective, offering valuable insights into your own growth edges. Katherine’s wisdom challenges us all to lead with humility and compassion in both our personal and professional lives. Don’t miss this insightful episode, which encourages you to voice your leadership and take meaningful action within your communities.

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This podcast was produced by the following amazing team:

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