Simran grew up in Delhi, but her grandparents migrated from Pakistan during Partition. Samirah grew up in Lahore, twin city to Delhi, and her grandparents migrated from India during Partition. In this powerful & poignant dialogue, they confront the deep-rooted fear and hatred that persists between India & Pakistan, even 75 years after Partition. Both Simran and Samirah find themselves unable to easily reconnect with their ancestral lands due to the prevailing tensions and animosity. India, once celebrated as "the world's largest democracy," has seen a shift towards a far-right agenda, bent on marginalizing Muslims and erasing their presence. Meanwhile, religious minorities in Pakistan face the brutal reality of systemic violence, with alarming instances of lynchings targeting Ahmadi Muslims, Christians, Hazaras, Balochis, and other marginalized communities.Together, Simran and Samirah explore the complex dynamics that hinder peace, understanding, and reconciliation between India and Pakistan. They shed light on the urgent need to confront these issues and work towards a future where religious and ethnic differences are celebrated rather than weaponized. Join us for an eye-opening conversation that challenges stereotypes, seeks common ground, and offers hope for a more inclusive and harmonious world.This podcast is part of the 'Transforming Fear' series, which delves deep into the human psyche, exploring the roots of fear and its impact on our lives both as individuals and communities.

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💡 Episode corrigendum/clarification
- Gujarat riots happened in 2002, not in the late 90s as mentioned at 32'.- Adnan Sami had a Pakistani father & Indian mother. He had a Pakistani passport until 2015 and has an Indian passport as of 2016.