An extra long episode for today - caught Jennifer at the end of her long day instead of in the middle of it.

We start off by talking about some day to day issues, reminding the audience we're going to be appearing together at the ContactInTheDesert.com event on June 1st, at 10:30 "How to Talk to One’s Council: Including ET’s Workshop with Jennifer Shaffer and Richard Martini Saturday, June 1, 2024 10:30am–12:05pm Location: Independence Room (Contact In the Desert)

Jennifer asked me how folks could sign up to do a guided meditation with me, they can by sending me an email at MartiniProds@gmail.com -

We invited Luana Anders to come and talk to us about two friends of hers who had crossed recently. Both friends and colleagues of hers. In the first instance, I name the individual, who was famous in Hollywood, but not so much outside the business.

The second person, her first name is used; she was a close friend of Luana's and those who know Luana and her story will likely recognize the name, those who aren't aware of it, will not.

And I prefer it that way - because that allowed her to speak about her journey directly from the flipside - since Jennifer had no idea who this woman was.

Jennifer also didn't know who Roger Corman is or was, and why these interviews are so unusual - because we are demonstrating how easy it is for ANYONE to speak to their loved ones offstage.

Literally invited them to come and share details about their journey.

I've been doing this with Jennifer for over 8 years, have been filming people talking to their loved ones via hypnotherapy or meditation for another 7 years, for a total of fifteen years.

It's not opinion, theory or belief that people can speak to, learn new information from people offstage - it's footage, data or in the science from the University of Virginia lab DOPS that demonstrates consciousness is not confined to the brain.

We had some visitors as well - Kobe stopped by to say "hi" (Jennifer has worked with members of his family) Bill Paxton stopped by to tease Jennifer about always forgetting his name, Charles Grodin made a short appearance - and people who know me, know that Luana and Charles were best pals for over 30 years, and I was close with him for 20. Every time he shows up, I know that I'm getting something fun to hear from my friend who is godfather to my kids.

Bill and I met early on, while he was shooting Aliens in London, remained pals, but I rarely saw him outside of Cannes. But he's shown up so many times that there's a film "talking to Bill Paxton" on Amazon where I had three different mediums ask Bill the same identical questions - only questions he could answer - and in one instance did so via a third person (blind study) who read my questions to the medium. I wasn't anywhere near them when they filmed that. Bill answered the same every time.

As noted at the end of this podcast, everything that Jennifer said - including the moment I was driving in Westwood and heard my friend's voice in my head saying "I went there!" when driving by the UCLA sign. (Funny, I just looked that detail up to confirm it and yes, she did).

Life does not end.

Our loved ones still exist.

One can access them, ask them questions.

It doesn't require a medium, but it can help.

Meditation works, so does hypnotherapy.

They want to continue the conversation.

Let them.

We are all heading home either way - as Ram Dass put it: 'We are all just walking each other home."

Indeed.

Try to enjoy the ride.